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Is Steven Avery guilty?
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Posted on 01/02/2016 9:59:00 PM PST by magglepuss

Is Steven Avery guilty?


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Society
KEYWORDS: colborn; craptvshow; denk; kratz; liberalbitchesfodder; soundslikecrap; willis
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To: BBell

Avery’s IQ was said to be 70. People here are excused from crimes for that because they are considered mentally disabled(bullshit). He definitely functions at a higher level.


61 posted on 01/02/2016 11:07:26 PM PST by magglepuss (Don't tread on me)
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To: magglepuss

I agree on that. His nephew seemed like a 70 but Avery did not. He does function at a higher level.


62 posted on 01/02/2016 11:09:50 PM PST by BBell
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To: BBell

At least 73 or 74


63 posted on 01/02/2016 11:21:04 PM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: BBell

That sequence of events is both physically and anatomically impossible...Right?


64 posted on 01/02/2016 11:22:25 PM PST by lee martell
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To: BBell

There is no way the prosecution made the case for guilty without a reasonable doubt. He was about to come into a lot of money. Why would he go nuts and rape and murder someone at that point? Why was he having two calm normal conversations during the hours he was supposed to be killing the photographer and destroying her body? How could there have been no evidence whatsoever other than that key that the woman was ever inside the trailer and garage? Someone killed that woman; the bullet fragment could have been from that. The key was planted. The Averys kept off their own property for a week? The banned county sheriffs always finding the evidence when they weren’t supposed to be anywhere near? The victim’s cell phone calls erased?

Why would he leave the car right there instead of crushing it? Why would her blood even be in the car, as he didn’t transport the body anywhere? And the bits of bone in the burn barrel show that someone did transport her remains to the burn site outside his house, and was a little sloppy.

The guy was a real loser but this didn’t make any sense.

And the poor nephew. He was treated so poorly. That public defender, the smiley blond guy, should be disbarred. That poor boy didn’t belong behind bars for one minute and now he will spend most of his life there. I hope there is a chance for a fair trial for them both again somehow.

What a tragic story. I do not feel Justice was served.


65 posted on 01/02/2016 11:35:04 PM PST by Yaelle (Since PC is not actually "correct," it should be renamed Political Pandering.)
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To: mmichaels1970

Why would the mom lie? They were monstrous to that kid.


66 posted on 01/02/2016 11:38:33 PM PST by Yaelle (Since PC is not actually "correct," it should be renamed Political Pandering.)
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To: BBell

70 IQ is pretty low. Thank goodness they did have to video all those inquisitions so we can see how cruel and unfair they were.


67 posted on 01/02/2016 11:40:26 PM PST by Yaelle (Since PC is not actually "correct," it should be renamed Political Pandering.)
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To: magglepuss

I doubt Avery’s IQ is that low - it is Brandon that has the borderline MR IQ. Avery is probably low normal.


68 posted on 01/02/2016 11:41:44 PM PST by Yaelle (Since PC is not actually "correct," it should be renamed Political Pandering.)
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To: Yaelle

I don’t see any reason why she would lie. I’ll leave that possibility out there since I’m sure I didn’t see all of the evidence. But I lean more towards the state knowing they’d have no chance of getting a confession if mom was at his side. Pure shame he didn’t appear to have competent legal counsel to defend him.


69 posted on 01/02/2016 11:44:42 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: BBell

Bright or not you just described the actions of a sadist


70 posted on 01/02/2016 11:48:09 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: mmichaels1970

His case should have correctly been thrown out. I can’t believe the entire state of Wisconsin could not give him any fair trial or appeal. That defender should have been disbarred.


71 posted on 01/02/2016 11:50:57 PM PST by Yaelle (Since PC is not actually "correct," it should be renamed Political Pandering.)
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To: BBell; Fungi

Did you not notic that the poster has no tv, does not watch shows, and was just asking for information?

Your response here is unreasonable and snarky


72 posted on 01/02/2016 11:52:25 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: magglepuss

I think he’s most probably guilty but what happened with the young nephew bothers the heck out of me. I don’t think the murder went down the way the prosecution laid it out. That’s why it seems so sketchy.

I did toy with the idea that the older brother of the nephew could have been the guilty one and not Avery but ultimately I’ve decided Avery did it. I also wondered if The Innocence Project were the ones that had caused the hole in the vile of blood when they were working his previous conviction. Also interesting that The Innocence Project turned him down for this case, that says a lot, in my opinion.

The prosecution was shoddy and I don’t believe they proved the case, even though I believe Steven guilty. The documentary was meant to lead viewers in one direction or at least muddy the water and so they leave out information that would help satisfy our questions.


73 posted on 01/03/2016 12:20:18 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Nifster
Who the hell is Steve Avery and why should I care?

I don't know who you are Nif but if someone asks a question like that the person is going to get snarky answers. Or maybe you just did not bother to see how this person asked the question. If I don't know what people are talking about I search it. I don't leave sarcastic remarks. Honestly I don't know where you come from but you don't ask a question like that unless you are in a bar.

In case your wondering just go to post 6. That's what started this. Then look at my post 34.

74 posted on 01/03/2016 12:27:52 AM PST by BBell
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To: magglepuss

Hard to know about Steve. Government - definitely guilty.


75 posted on 01/03/2016 12:32:35 AM PST by tinyowl (A equals A, And C Edmund Wright thinks I am an idiot and a Trump Sycophant)
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To: lee martell
At this point I believe there should be a re-trial. Yes, I believe it is possible that someone else killed the girl, burned her somewhere else and dumped part of the ashes in the burn pit. Then I believe the sheriffs department could have planted evidence.

Having said that I believe the prosecutions sequence of events is also possible.

So where do I stand? Heck if I know.

Another thing, the brother in law should have been looked into. He gave some conflicting statements. He could have done it and framed Avery. Or maybe Peter Pan did it?

76 posted on 01/03/2016 12:47:42 AM PST by BBell
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To: Yaelle

I think they should have looked into the brother in law. He easily could had framed Avery. He’s the one who gave conflicting statements about how high the flames were. And he was supposed to be out hunting when all this occurred.


77 posted on 01/03/2016 12:52:40 AM PST by BBell
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To: magglepuss
Seems that everyone with access to Netflix binge-watched a dramatic series and has now formed very important opinions about the entire American justice system as a whole. Plus, their feelings about it are important to them.

Then we wonder how dullards keep electing charlatans to high office.

Just napalm and cluster bomb the entire county of Manitowoc-ewewac-amuc Wisconsin (or whatever it's called) and be done with it. Everyone and everything there is guilty, including the cat that Steve Avery threw in a campfire.

78 posted on 01/03/2016 1:00:40 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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A working link (or 2 or 3) would make this thread a lot better:
https://www.netflix.com/title/80000770

http://www.people.com/article/steven-avery-prosecutor-ken-kratz-says-netflix-series-forgot-key-evidence

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/netflix-making-a-murderer-raises-questions-murder-case-teresa-halbach-steven-avery/


79 posted on 01/03/2016 1:02:53 AM PST by Drago
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To: Fungi

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80 posted on 01/03/2016 1:29:45 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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