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This will be fun to see what comes crawling out of the woodwork!
We had a pinhead at work that didn’t understand this too.We all tried to explain to him,but his mind couldn’t or wouldn’t grasp the concept.
The day of or the day after, Freerepublic had someone on this site explaining how it got hot enough inside the building to melt the steel and someone also explained why the pancaking of all that concrete destroyed the lower floors ability to hold the up causing the whole tower to come down both times.
He must have put some thermite inside his forge.
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Then how come my barbecue doesn’t get white hot and melt down like that? And how can a kitchen fire cause wtc 7 to fall straight down?
Gravity destroyed the towers. But you’ll never get him to talk.
People don’t often realize this but wood timber construction can be safer in a fire than steel beam construction because wood chars on the outside, turning to carbon in the extreme, but that layer of char protects the interior and leaves appreciable amounts of a beam’s strength intact till well after a nominally comparable strength, or even much stronger, steel beam would soften and fail in the same fire.
You don’t have to heat up steel that much to seriously weaken it.
Please note: wood “timber” ... not white pine 2x4s that are only 1.5” x 3.5” in actual dimension like too many houses are built of today. Timber implies something more substantial than mere sticks of sometimes cheap wood ... so don’t imagine that I’m saying anything in praise of the latter. Thanks.
He is right by the way. Actually wood as better load carrying strength in a fire then steel does.
There will always be a core of thick-skulled morons who want to believe in the 9/11 government conspiracy. But these debunking examples can help prevent would-be Truthers from being created.
Excellent thanks for sharing.
I had a customer back then who was a retired Prof of Architecture..He told me he had worked on the construction of the Towers and that the WTC did not have a layer of concrete poured over any of the beams as was SOP until the 70’s in NYC.As a result he had no problem believing that the steel was melted quite quickly
He did demonstrate very well how fire will soften iron. Soften = weaken.
Waaah, now I want my safe space.
The nice thing about Constitutional freedom and free speech is we all have the ability to say things others may not agree with or that others may feel offends them. We still have the right to offend others. I kind of like it like that. If someone wants to believe or tell me that the sun sets in the east, or about 9-11, so be it.
The mostly liberal elites (Harvard types) are slowly (slyly) setting us up to take away the First and Second Amendment. They are creating a society where conspiracies and other beliefs, that they deem offensive should be made illegal, and representing the crime of political correctness.
It's like the people who believe all pro sports are rigged....and I knew a few. The amount of people who would have to keep their mouths shut would be in the thousands or tens of thousands. That would include the athletes, coaching staff, and management. There's no way somebody wouldn't spill the beans with that many people involved.
You actually don’t even have to melt the steel for the buildings to collapse. All material strengths are a function of temperature, dropping as the temperature increases. From my copy of MIL-HDBK-5F, depending upon the alloy, I can show that all structural steels only have 40% to 60% their tensile yield strength between 800°F and 1000°F. Compressive strengths fair even worse at temp.
UNIFIED CONSPIRACY THEORY:
In 1908, an alien spacecraft exploded at Tunguska, Russia;
The Roswell alien spacecraft was a rescue mission for the Tunguska crash, but it fell through a wormhole and crashed in the New Mexico desert 39 years later;
A piece of alien technology from the Roswell crash was discovered by a teenager named Elvis Presley;
Presley turned it over to the Nazi scientists of Operation Paperclip (Presley was placed in a government relocation program in Memphis, TN, where he promptly blew cover);
The Nazi scientists reverse-engineered the alien technology and developed the Internet, GMO’s, fracking and chemtrail technology, which in turn sucks our precious bodily fluids from the atmosphere and provides power for the HAARP array;
The HAARP array sent out a harmonic tone that destroyed the Twin Towers and the Pentagon on the order of George W. Bush, who personally detonated them from his secret Skull and Bones man-cave beneath the campus of UT-Austin.
There, it all makes sense, Mulder and Scully were right, The Truth Is Out There, man!
Here we have a person with active working experience demonstrating that the basis of the belief, that steel needs to have melted for the building (World Trade Center Tower 7) to fall, is demonstrably false. Yet this short 2 minute demonstration will not get seen anywhere close to the number who watched that fatuous woman spew idiocy!