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Microsoft steps up Windows 10 nagging (MS Sez, Choose One: "Now" or "Tonight". Wait, what?)
The Register ^ | Dec 15, 2015 | Iain Thomson

Posted on 12/16/2015 6:30:12 PM PST by dayglored

Fire up any computer running Windows 7 or 8 and you'll be used to a message or three inviting you to upgrade to Windows 10. But the latest pop-up screen doesn't even give you a choice.

The large pop-up screen, which first appeared over the weekend, gives users the option of upgrading straight away or ... that evening. Users can still opt out by clicking on the red 'X' in the top right corner of the window, but less savvy computer users (part of Redmond's core market segments) might not figure that out.

This is not a new idea; it's called the assumptive sell and has been in pop-up ads for years. But it's not the kind of tactic you'd expect from a respectable firm like Microsoft - or at least, not until Windows 10 came along.

When Microsoft announced in January that Windows 10 upgrades would be free for users of versions 7 and 8 in the first 12 months after release, many people were pleased. But as time has gone on it has become clear that Windows users aren't being offered the upgrade, so much as having it rammed down their throats.

Besides the pop-ups, Microsoft has already added the Windows 10 upgrade as an "optional" update in its monthly Patch Tuesday cycle. But early next year that will be changed to a "recommended" update, meaning that those who have set the patching cycle to Automatic will download the new OS by default.

This is partly behind predictions from analysts about how Windows 10 upgrades will bloom next year. That's something Microsoft will be praying for, especially since Windows 10 installations have been lagging of late.

Microsoft had no comment on the new pop-up practices, referring us instead to an earlier blog post on the matter that states:

"Windows Update is the trusted, logical location for our most important updates, and adding Windows 10 here is another way we will make it easy for you to find your upgrade. Before the upgrade changes the OS of your device, you will be clearly prompted to choose to continue."

The latest pop-up screen is yet another tactic by Microsoft to increase updates, but you have to wonder where the line is between helpful prodding and infuriating nagging.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: microsoft; nag; windows; windows10; windowspinglist
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To: dayglored

Ah, Microsoft.

I see the sleaze still goes in before the code comes out.


21 posted on 12/16/2015 6:58:22 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: r_barton

“If operating systems were like ice cream, Windows would be vanilla, Linux would be 31 Flavors.”

That’s vanilla with salmonella contained within.


22 posted on 12/16/2015 6:59:44 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
> I run 2 pcs on Win 8.1 and have never seen the upgrade nag screen on either one.

Maybe they're not compatible with Windows 10. What are their specs?

23 posted on 12/16/2015 7:00:19 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I’ve never understood WHY MS is giving this update away.

Nor, WHY it is SO INSISTENT that everyone accept the free giveaway.

Odd, imho...


24 posted on 12/16/2015 7:01:25 PM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: newfreep
> I upgraded an old netbook - Win7 "Starter" with only 1MB RAM. Not only is the netbook more stable but noticeably faster, too.

DOOD. Clearly you are teh haxorz.

"1MB". (I assume you meant "1GB".)

Actually, I did up a VM of the MSDOS from Win98se the other night, with 1MB. Runs awesome fast on a Core i5 LOL.

25 posted on 12/16/2015 7:05:14 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: CondorFlight
> I've never understood WHY MS is giving this update away. Nor, WHY it is SO INSISTENT that everyone accept the free giveaway. Odd, imho...

Simple. They need to consolidate the consumer and small business user base into a single version of Windows, one that stays updated, one that vacuums up user data that they can use to sell more stuff, or that they can sell to someone else who will sell more stuff.

Hence the "spyware" telemetry and private data tracking. Smart users "turn that sh*t off", in the immortal words of Chris Rock.

People are still using Windows XP. Not so much Vista, but a TON of people are using Win7. Win 8.x was a disaster.

They HAVE to make Windows 10 a success, which is defined as "get it into everybody's machines, now".

26 posted on 12/16/2015 7:10:08 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored


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27 posted on 12/16/2015 7:12:36 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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28 posted on 12/16/2015 7:13:34 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: Elderberry

I hid KB3035583 a few months ago, and found another KB3035583 in the queue today. Both are now hidden. They’re different sized and point to the same MS Support link. Weird.


29 posted on 12/16/2015 7:21:57 PM PST by Carriage Hill (0bummer: NO to the Keystone Oil Pipeline, but YES to the Mideast muslim Sewerline.)
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To: dayglored
Odd, never seen anythin like that on this 7 64bit machine.

Maybe not downloading any updates after the first week almost two years ago did the trick?

Been just as solid as the old XP box as well.

30 posted on 12/16/2015 7:24:06 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: dayglored

I just got a major windows 10 upgrade notice which downloaded lastnight from the one I installed in July. Took over an hour....I have no clue what changes occurred. As long as I can get into my stuff, I am happy.


31 posted on 12/16/2015 7:24:32 PM PST by hsmomx3 (GO STEELERS!!!!!!)
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To: dayglored

Nope, the netbook has only 1MB RAM memory.

I was a bit surprised the Win7 “Starter” was eligible for the Win10 upgrade...and even more surprised it outperformed Win7 on only 1MB memory.


32 posted on 12/16/2015 7:41:07 PM PST by newfreep (TRUMP 2016 - "Evil succeeds when good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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To: dayglored

Oooops.....it does have 1GB memory.

I must have been having a 1970’s flashback...but feeling much better now.


33 posted on 12/16/2015 7:43:21 PM PST by newfreep (TRUMP 2016 - "Evil succeeds when good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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To: newfreep
> Nope, the netbook has only 1MB RAM memory. I was a bit surprised the Win7 "Starter" was eligible for the Win10 upgrade...and even more surprised it outperformed Win7 on only 1MB memory.

Ummmm.... wow. That can't be right... It's like saying you crossed the Pacific in a bathtub with a newspaper for a sail...

34 posted on 12/16/2015 7:45:36 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: newfreep
> Oooops.....it does have 1GB memory. I must have been having a 1970's flashback...but feeling much better now.

WHEW. You weren't the only one having flashbacks.... :-)

35 posted on 12/16/2015 7:46:31 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: sten

Cue the creepy stalker girlfriend pic...


36 posted on 12/16/2015 7:57:07 PM PST by zeugma (Last time I was sober, man I felt bad. Worst hangover I've ever had.)
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To: dayglored

And you can’t turn this crap off.

It’s not the only nuisance software out there. Opera nags me even with updates turned off.

“Hey we’ve got something new, are you SURE you don’t want our latest, it’s ready to install!”

Stop loading crap on my system killing my bandwith and eating up my storage.

This message isn’t just aimed at MS.


37 posted on 12/16/2015 8:26:58 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The goal of Socialism is Communism. Marx and Lenin were in agreement on this.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Open ‘God Mode’ in win7 and you’ll have all the admin features you want all in one place.


38 posted on 12/16/2015 8:28:24 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The goal of Socialism is Communism. Marx and Lenin were in agreement on this.)
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To: Elderberry

How do you hide KB3035583?

I’ve uninstalled it before and don’t have the updates on.

It’s back. Or have they been renaming it and pushing it out unrequested?


39 posted on 12/16/2015 8:32:23 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The goal of Socialism is Communism. Marx and Lenin were in agreement on this.)
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To: CondorFlight

They’re desperate to get their spyware and Obamaware installed. Even if I wanted the damn thing, which I assuredly do not, their presumption would be enough to make sure it never rocks one of my machines. EVER.


40 posted on 12/16/2015 8:38:42 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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