Linux Foundation’s Deal With the Devil

FOSS Force ^ | 14 December 2015 | Christine Hall

[ShadowAce]

[Dr. Sivana]

This shouldn’t be religion. Ballmer is gone. Microsoft is doing a decent job getting reconciled to the new environment, and the company CERTAINLY is not treading water.

[bmwcyle]

Yes, and Microsoft is forcing the biggest spyware ever called Windows 10.

[moovova]

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[markomalley]

There are plenty of Linux certifications out there. Why shouldn’t M$ have one for Azure?

[Nervous Tick]

Careful! I don’t think the moderators allow that “voice of reason” stuff here on the OS Religion Forum threads.

[markomalley]

Having said that, if M$ really wants to embrace Linux, they should port Office 2016 to Linux (either RPM, DEB, or both). They should also write an official Onedrive client for Linux (again RPM, DEB, or both).

I don’t see either happening anytime soon.

[Nervous Tick]

>> Rather than throw the Microsoft that is treading water a life preserver

I don’t quite understand that part. Microsoft has been doing very well lately, as evidenced by their latest earnings and the subsequent pop in their share price. What does he mean, “treading water”?

[ShadowAce]

What does he mean, "treading water"?

MS is doing very well in the desktop area.

Not so much in servers, or other Enterprise-class services/products.

Yes--their stock price has been doing well--but they've been leaning on the desktop product far too heavily.

That's her opinion, I believe. I haven't been following them enough to know.

[Nervous Tick]

“At risk”, I can understand.

“Treading water” is hyperbole.

Anyway the “big picture” is a BIG picture comprising cloud services, mobile devices, desktop OS, corporate servers, productivity apps, etc., and again, in terms of shareholder value MS seems to be more than holding their own.

[lormand]

I have always been fascinated by the tribal nature of the geek community’s hatred towards certain OSs, and technology companies.

[ShadowAce]

You have to understand some history here.

Software, in general, actually began as open source, and free to distribute among anyone who wanted to use it.

Bill Gates came along in the 70's and started lobbying for selling code, rather than just giving it away. There was a lot of backlash then, and it hasn't really stopped.

It's not about having a different OS--most developers and admins agree that choice is good. It's about MS' attitude towards the community that created their attitude towards MS.

[Dr. Sivana]

Yes, and Microsoft is forcing the biggest spyware ever called Windows 10.

In breadth, yes. I think Facebook wins for depth, and Google for all-around.

I have everything I can turned off on my Win10 install, and I have blocked a buncha Microsoft sites from my router. I am thinking of an exit strategy. It will probably include CentOS with a Win VM, needed for my heavy reliance on FileMaker Pro and WordPerfect etc.

[PoloSec]

It seems to me the most intelligent OS is Linux and the user’s are far more intelligent, what I don’t understand is why it has to be so complex for the average home computer user, it should be easy to make it even more simple to use than Windows or Mac, rather than a raging sea of complexities.

[rdb3]

[tacticalogic]

Software, in general, actually began as open source, and free to distribute among anyone who wanted to use it

Bill Gates came along in the 70's and started lobbying for selling code, rather than just giving it away. There was a lot of backlash then, and it hasn't really stopped.

Imagine what the software landscape would look like if there just wasn't any money to be made in programming.

[Paine in the Neck]

Cooperate.

Co-opt.

Control.

[ImJustAnotherOkie]

Giving away Visual Studio to indies was a big big step.

[dayglored]

> I am thinking of an exit strategy. It will probably include CentOS with a Win VM, needed for my heavy reliance on FileMaker Pro and WordPerfect etc.

That's pretty much exactly my current dayjob workstation setup. Works extremely well.