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1 posted on 12/12/2015 5:19:32 AM PST by Michael van der Galien
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Don’t worry - you’ll soon get some explanations of why ethanol schemes are really conservative and patriotic, and how only RINOs and the GOPe would ever oppose envirowelfare.


2 posted on 12/12/2015 5:23:23 AM PST by wideawake
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Great points. Good to see the distinctions between Cruz and Trump being made clear. Cruz: principled conservative. Trump: big government pandering blowhard who just has to make personal insults rather than just discussing policies.


3 posted on 12/12/2015 5:26:47 AM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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Go Senator Cruz!


5 posted on 12/12/2015 5:27:59 AM PST by basil ( God bless the USA!)
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This is a good post and helps to crystallize my thinking about Trump.


6 posted on 12/12/2015 5:28:39 AM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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‘Trump can also read polls and understands that Cruz poses a serious threat to him in Iowa.’

PollS? Plural???

Why is it necessary to lie? There is only one such poll. The other most recent IA poll found Trump with a 13pt lead.

As I just posted on another thread, re the lone poll that found Cruz leading within the MOE:

Monmouth/Patrick Murray has become famous for detecting ‘surges’ no other poll can locate. Monmouth/Murray discovered two seperate ‘surges’ for Carson...right before Carson tanked.


7 posted on 12/12/2015 5:29:04 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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8 posted on 12/12/2015 5:29:06 AM PST by Helicondelta
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I am calling this media bias because I heard Trump last night (can not recall all of it right now) but there was more to his comment then what is presented in the article....That is how the left plays, just tell 1/2 the story which makes it sound like something it is not!


9 posted on 12/12/2015 5:30:50 AM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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Cruz is correct.


13 posted on 12/12/2015 5:35:39 AM PST by exnavy (good gun control: two hands, one shot, one kill.)
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This article is written by people that are very confused.

Ted was right in principle to oppose federal government subsidies of ethanol. Donald is right to point out that he is not controlled by the oil industry, that Ted is influenced by that industry. The writer then turns and twist by declaring Donald Trump also represents special interests but fails to explain further, which I suspect is due to the fact that there is ‘no *there* there’.

I think the press just wants to see a fight because it’s something to write about. The persons that make their vocation in the press cannot get to real facts and stories because it requires money, work and especially time, so they resort to creating facts and stories that they think will keep their business in the public eye. In other words, their product is cheap and not worth the material it is printed on or the bandwidth it consumes. Unfortunately for them, Ted Cruz is far too smart to engage in their fantasy embellishments.


14 posted on 12/12/2015 5:37:07 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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Trump knows that sending Cruz down in a ball of flames will win him friends in the GOPe who hate Cruz passionately.

Cruz always needed Plan B to deal with Trump but we haven’t seen it.


15 posted on 12/12/2015 5:38:14 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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I do like Ted Cruz, but not a lot of evangelicals come out of Cuba. Not a lot come out.

And how many come out of NYC?
17 posted on 12/12/2015 5:42:21 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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GovCo ethanol is a bad idea that I'd love to see go away.

If I understand it correctly, the idea is to use up large amounts of money, fuel, land and water to grow food, and then, using up more money, energy and water, that food is turned into ethanol.

Then, that ethanol gets blended with gasoline, which by itself has more energy than ethanol, to create a lower energy replacement for gasoline, in order to save money and have a cleaner environment.

However, because the gasohol has less energy than gasoline, vehicles get fewer miles per gallon than with pure gas, and thus burn more fuel to go the same distance.

Is that close, because that sounds crazy. Does anyone speak "Common Core" and can explain this math to me?

Why don't we just use gasoline for fuel, eat the food we grow, responsibly enjoy the ethanol we distill and save the water for better uses?

27 posted on 12/12/2015 6:12:12 AM PST by GBA (Just a hick in paradise and There Are FOUR Lights!)
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Don’t be stupid. The media would like nothing more than a full fight between Cruz and Trump knocking them both out.

Trump hasn’t said anything that isn’t true. Cruz isn’t playing along. DOn’t feed the fires.

Decide who you back and bak them else wise you get Bush or Rubio or some other pathetic GOPe


33 posted on 12/12/2015 6:17:28 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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I am a firm believer in never using ethyl alcohol in an internal combustion engine. If one must go to the trouble and expense of distilling it, it should be stored in charred oak barrels until such time as it is needed. In Kentucky, maybe. Or Tennessee. Or western NC or VA. Or in my basement.


41 posted on 12/12/2015 6:52:16 AM PST by jstaff
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Energy subsidies are a non-issue, few understand and no one cares either way. They just want cheap gas.


42 posted on 12/12/2015 6:56:41 AM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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The difference with Cruz is stark: the senator from Texas chooses principles over short-term political gain.

Those principles of Trump's which aren't for sale are negotiable.

51 posted on 12/12/2015 7:22:58 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Revenge is a Daesh best served cold.)
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Since there have been quite a few posts on the thread claiming that ethanol receives subsidies, someone should set the record straight.

Ethanol has not received a direct subsidy for several years now, since they expired in 2011.

What there is is a mandate that so much ethanol has to be blended with our fuel.

For the record, I oppose both subsidies and mandates, and did so quite publicly when I ran for Iowa governor last year.


53 posted on 12/12/2015 7:25:33 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Democrats and the GOP. They love our enemies, and hate you and me)
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... The difference with Cruz is stark: the senator from Texas chooses principles over short-term political gain...

Interesting how those principles aren’t written in stone, they change for long term political gain.


64 posted on 12/12/2015 7:50:09 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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PJ Media? Really?


67 posted on 12/12/2015 8:57:33 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Trump and Cruz are not attacking each other. Why don't their follows take note)
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Here is a legitimate question to all the TRUMP supporters who may have Ted CRUZ as your 2nd choice.

Consider this, if Donald Trump stays in the GOP why bother then ?

Why bother ? To have Ted Cruz as your 2nd choice if Donald Trump is a sure thing to win the nomination ?

If Trump stays in the GOP are you not saying ?

For those who have Ted Cruz as your 2nd choice are saying ?

Are you not saying ?

That Donald Trump might fail ?

That Donald Trump might fade ?

By your own admission by saying that Ted Cruz is your back up plan insurance policy 2nd choice just I’m case Trump fails ? Just in case Trump fades ?

Why then ?

Do the Trump supporters get on and condemn anyone other than a Trump supporter for saying that TRUMP might fail, Trump might fade ?

That, IS a legitimate question.


71 posted on 12/12/2015 9:51:42 AM PST by American Constitutionalist ( because the Constitution matteHow canrs.)
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