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It just annoys me so much because of the way they seem to think the bill or rights applies to people from other countries and martians and the progs are all huffy about it. But when it comes to citizens who are actually entitled to such rights the progressives say we have none.
1 posted on 12/11/2015 5:06:54 PM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG

agreed. I’ve yet to have anyone explain to me how OUR Constitution applies to people who are here illegally.

MY Constitution doesn’t protect ME in another Country, nor does that countries Constituion apply to me.


2 posted on 12/11/2015 5:09:20 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: GraceG

Illegals have rights, but I can’t choose what type of lightbulb to use in my home.


3 posted on 12/11/2015 5:10:46 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: GraceG

They think foreigners have those rights, but not: Republicans, conservatives, veterans, gun owners, pro-lifers, Christians ...


6 posted on 12/11/2015 5:15:36 PM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: GraceG

Courts have maintained that Non-Citizens, when they are on U.S. soil, are granted Due Process and protections under the Bill of Rights.

Examples would be that the police cannot search a Non-Citizen’s home without a warrant and if arrested for a crime, they have the right to remain silent.


8 posted on 12/11/2015 5:17:18 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: GraceG

It’s not that they have “rights” per se, but a 2003 SCOTUS decision states that foreigners on US soil are accorded the shames in our justice system.

Now, I think people are saying that it’s not in our culture to ask religious question. Personally, I think it’s stupid—but not for those reason. My reason is that a terrorist will lie.

Instead we should just block people from entire countries, and require visas and background checks for visa from others.

We could accomplish the same result with a whole lot less heartache (and lots more support) if folks just thought this through a little.


9 posted on 12/11/2015 5:17:21 PM PST by Vermont Lt (I had student debt. It came from a bank. Not from the Govt.)
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To: GraceG

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”


10 posted on 12/11/2015 5:17:22 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: GraceG

Hussein’s playing “clueless” about Jihad reality. He’s not
all that stupid or innocent. - I suspect he just plain does
not care if Muslim fanatics off some of us, especially if
we’re conservatives. The loss of a few of his own kind in
his mind is probably just collateral damage if it serves
the cause.


13 posted on 12/11/2015 5:22:28 PM PST by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: GraceG

I was kinda blown away to find out that the new GQ guy running CANADA is letting in terrorists. They just had a big terror attack.

Of course this isn’t great news for us either sharing the same continent with these crazies.

What the heck is wrong with this people!?!

I mean even Hollande and Sweden are rethinking this.

What must you think to feel the imaginary rights of non-citizens are more important than your own people?

Crap, I remember B-52’s in the air at all time and practicing getting under our desks. What happened to concern about national security?


14 posted on 12/11/2015 5:24:58 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: GraceG

Progressives are communists who want a One World government
and they need to lie a lot to promote their agenda. But
they aren’t entirely lying about extending “rights” to
everyone since they want one government for the whole world.
It just won’t be the rights described in the DoI and
protected by the BoR.


15 posted on 12/11/2015 5:25:56 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: GraceG

The words of the Declaration of Independence declares that “all men are endowed with inalienable rights. That among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

One of the arguments that the anti-Federalist had against the Constitution was that it did not spell out some of these inalienable rights that all men should have at that the government would recognize. The bill of rights was promised to clarify what rights the federal government would recognize to win the support of some of the anti-federalists.

Our founding fathers didn’t believe that rights were bestowed by the government, but were bestowed by God (or nature if you were Thomas Paine.) If that is the case, then those rights extend to all men, including non-citizens.

I’m not saying that we shouldn’t restrict who comes into our country, but if we believe that the government gave us, the citizens, these rights, then that same government can take those rights from us.

But the government did not give them to us. They are rights that all men have.


16 posted on 12/11/2015 5:26:32 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: GraceG

I would like to know how ANY immigration, legal or illegal, helps the average citizen?


18 posted on 12/11/2015 5:28:22 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: GraceG
Our Founding documents encourage this: "All men are Created equal". Our laws and governance do not apply just to US citizens. They apply to all within our borders. Even the way we conduct warfare takes basic human rights into account.

That being said, liberals do declare "rights" when "privilege" is the correct term. Most things they declare as "rights" are merely humane practice or universal courtesy. Nobody has an inherent right to come to our Nation.

24 posted on 12/11/2015 5:39:53 PM PST by GingisK
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To: GraceG

Well I think that some of it has to do with the fact that our constitution embodies NATURAL RIGHTS and not those GIVEN by the state. If the state can give them they can take them away. Our founders stated we had certain natural rights which mean that they aren’t related to any government but are inherent in our very existence.

What irritates me is that both demoncrat and republicans seem to think they have all sorts of authority through govt to control anyones natural rights citizen or otherwise.


30 posted on 12/11/2015 5:58:48 PM PST by reed13k (w)
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14th Amendment, Section 1 - All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The 14th Amendment guarantees equal protection to all persons, not just U.S. citizens.

34 posted on 12/11/2015 6:58:33 PM PST by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: GraceG

Yeah, it’s their “constitutional right” to be taken care of with our tax dollars.
It’s their “right” to bankrupt the country.


39 posted on 12/12/2015 9:00:00 PM PST by mumblypeg (I've seen the future; brother it is murder. -L. Cohen)
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