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How to Fix the Student Debt Crisis
City Journal ^ | 12/02/2015 | Steven Cohen

Posted on 12/02/2015 7:12:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 12/02/2015 7:12:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

How to fix it?
Garnish their wages.

Every simple non-problem can seem like a problem if you are so droolingly stupid as to discount the obvious.


2 posted on 12/02/2015 7:15:17 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Under this sensible plan, colleges should also have the option of revoking the degree credentials of delinquent borrowers. It would be yet an additional incentive not to sell worthless degrees.
3 posted on 12/02/2015 7:17:27 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Eliminate worthless academic departments and the cereal box top majors eminating from that cess pool.


4 posted on 12/02/2015 7:17:47 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind

Fix it by ending the doomsday debt machine known as the Federal Reserve.

it supports the US Government in everyone of its progressive social-engineering schemes.


5 posted on 12/02/2015 7:18:45 AM PST by PGR88
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To: MrEdd
How to fix it? Garnish their wages.

That wouldn't work so well when someone with a $150,000 degree in XYZ studies is making coffee at Starbucks for $10 per hour ($15 in Seattle) . . . if they are working at all.

6 posted on 12/02/2015 7:19:19 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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Does getting your Counseling or Social Science degree yanked make any difference to you when you’re main job is to say “do you want fries with that?”


7 posted on 12/02/2015 7:20:03 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind
The EFC means that if you earn a decent income and saved some money for college for your kids, you get almost nothing from the colleges or the feds.

But if you make relatively little and saved nothing, you get all sorts of grants, scholarships, and subsidized loans.

One of the biggest problems I have with the EFC is that it does not take into account your younger children, or children that have already graduated college.

Most people I have spoken to are in the same boat as me. The EFC comes out to $55,000 per year. We all compare EFC's and we are all get the same number.

We got an offer letter for my daughter (now a junior in college) when she was accepted, and I went back to the college and asked if they could do any better. The answer was "no"... their offer (around $30K/year) was already below my EFC so they couldn't do anything.

8 posted on 12/02/2015 7:22:33 AM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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Cap university endowments to $1 billion. Anything above that is taxed...let's call it the "College & University Unification Plan."

Then again, let's not...those who have read Atlas Shrugged knows how these "unification plans" didn't work out...lol.

Harvard could give 50,000 students an annual $20,000 stipend on the income from their $30+ billion endowment.

9 posted on 12/02/2015 7:25:44 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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Formally open up the bankruptcy process to student loan holders.

There is ample precedent. That’s how it will be solved. Discharge unpayable debt, or restructure it.

This will destroy academia as we know it, but that is inevitable anyway.

No American should be expected to be enslaved for life by unpayable debt. Like it or not, that’s the only solution.


10 posted on 12/02/2015 7:26:28 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: SeekAndFind

Simple.
One student at a time.
If you can’t afford it CASH, don’t sign up.

So long as prospective students are willing to commit to whatever hair-brained schemes to pay for whatever the list price is, schools will keep jacking up those prices.

One reason for raising tuition to the stratosphere (other than they’re just happy to accept whatever you’re willing to pay) is to create _friction_: there simply isn’t enough seats available for everyone who allegedly* wants a degree, and they can’t discriminate on any other grounds, so they have to raise prices until demand finally drops off to match available supply.

(* - as a part-time prof, I found fully 1/3rd of students either wouldn’t or couldn’t do the work; if you won’t do the work, you don’t want the degree - go home and save your money.)


11 posted on 12/02/2015 7:26:29 AM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: Da Coyote

We have a winner.


12 posted on 12/02/2015 7:29:03 AM PST by steve8714 (If black lives matter, why are so many of them wasted?)
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To: ctdonath2

” I found fully 1/3rd of students either wouldn’t or couldn’t do the work; if you won’t do the work, you don’t want the degree - go home and save your money.”

Did your institution send them home, or accommodate them so that they would continue to be a revenue stream? I think I know the answer. Failure is not an option if you can still borrow money to give to the university.


13 posted on 12/02/2015 7:30:31 AM PST by RFEngineer
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Nothing wrong with having “worthless academic departments and cereal box top majors”.
The problem is INDIVIDUALS CHOOSING to go into debt to get them.

Methinks the solution is: leave things exactly as they are. At some point people at large will realize “don’t sign up for a huge debt to get a stupid degree”.
Half the problem is people thinking it can somehow be “fixed” any way other than “don’t sign up for a huge debt to get a stupid degree”.


14 posted on 12/02/2015 7:31:38 AM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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Here’s what I would recommend for students.

1) Select an affordable university.

2) Live at home and commute to school.

3) Work part time jobs to cover expenses such as food, tuition, and textbooks.

4) Keep borrowing to a minimum.

I know this works. It’s what I did to get through college.


15 posted on 12/02/2015 7:34:57 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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I have said for a long time on FR the appeal of the Socialists (dems) is always 'Vote for me I will get you someone else's money.

When an in debt college student, present or past, gets into the voting booth, issues like the economy, immigration , fundamental Muslim Jihad, race relations,Supreme Court Justice appointments etc will be trumped once again by this simple consideration:
Vote for the Socialists (dems) because they will get the taxpayers to pay off your college debt, because if you vote for Republicans, you will be in debt for the rest of your life. - Tom

16 posted on 12/02/2015 7:35:11 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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That’s exactly what my daughter did. She had her loan paid off in a little over 1 year.


17 posted on 12/02/2015 7:38:16 AM PST by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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If I remember correctly, the purpose of the hood of the professorial cloak was to place food items, fruit and such, if he did a good job at the lectern.

Now, the university uses OPM, yours, to fund their lifestyle, with no limits.

It has become a laundering service, with your money, from the taxes, through govt officials, and back into their campaign coffers.

Slick plan, that.

18 posted on 12/02/2015 7:40:57 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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Every d@mn one of them failed the class.

Three times in a row I actually flunked the whole class (admittedly very small classes then, but still). Seeing what was coming, I called the dean:
“Looks like I’m going to fail all of them.”
“You give each student individually exactly the grade they earned.”
“Thank you.”
System was set up so all relevant CYA info was recorded. They had absolutely every opportunity & resource to succeed. If you don’t do the work, you can’t pass.

Upon failing, each was given the opportunity to retake the course.
Most of them failed again. (Most notable case: student actually _bought_ answers to the final exam, costing him at least $300. He still failed.)
If. You. Don’t. Do. The. Work. You. Can. Not. Pass.


19 posted on 12/02/2015 7:43:34 AM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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Under this sensible plan, colleges should also have the option of revoking the degree credentials of delinquent borrowers. It would be yet an additional incentive not to sell worthless degrees.

Yep, the kids don't have any skin in the game when they perceive these loans as FREE money.

20 posted on 12/02/2015 7:46:04 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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