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Massive Windows 10 Update Has Three Nasty Surprises (Threshold 2 Problems)
Forbes (Tech) ^ | Nov 14, 2015 | Gordon Kelly

Posted on 11/15/2015 6:20:35 PM PST by dayglored

'Threshold 2', Microsoft's massive Windows 10 update has brought lots of very positive changes... But unfortunately it has also been dogged by familiar controversy.

Nasty Surprise #1: The 44% Bug

Users have been reporting installation issues ... it gets stuck at the 44% mark ... In the official Windows Forum, Microsoft explained it may be to do with SD card issues:

"We've observed that some devices that have an SD bus with an SD card inserted while installing the Windows 10 November update will stop responding at 44%, and we are currently investigating the issue."
Nasty Surprise #2: Deleting And Changing Default Programs

Threshold 2 is deleting a number of installed programs as it upgrades... CPU-Z, speccy, 8gadgetpack, a Cisco VPN client, SATA drivers, SpyBot, RSAT, F5 VPN, HWMonitor and more.

Of course these can be reinstalled... but 1. This shouldn't happen in the first place, and 2. There should be a warning in advance, not just after they were removed... Many are system monitoring tools. Has Microsoft something planned in this space for the future and is quietly removing the competition?

On top of this... Threshold 2 users are finding it has changed a number of default app choices back to Microsoft services.

Nasty Surprise #3: Forced Delays For Recent Upgraders

Quite surprisingly, Microsoft admits on its Windows Update FAQ that new Windows 10 users are being pushed to the back of the queue for the Threshold 2 Update:

"If it's been less than 31 days since you upgraded to Windows 10, you won't get the November update right away; this will allow you to go back to your previous version of Windows if you choose. After the 31 days have passed, your PC will automatically download the November update."

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: threshold2; updates; windows; windows10; windowspinglist
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Go to Start and type/search for “Customer Experience.” Turn off the settings in the CEIP panel. Also go through the Control Panel and turn off all of the identity and location awareness programs. Most of them are under “Location Settings.”


41 posted on 11/16/2015 4:27:53 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: dayglored

I had purchased the Win8 upgrade for $49 for my systems that had XP. For the price I was willing to take a chance on it. Win8 was a disaster from the GUI perspective and I really hated it. I took the Win10 upgrade as soon as I could. The Win 10 WiFi driver didn’t work well on my laptop and I had to make some serious tweaks to the driver to get it to work without overheating the card and consuming CPU resources. I got through it, and the system runs nice and cool, without BSOD from the heat. It is much faster than 8 which was faster than 7.

Win7 is fine, and my office PC has it. I am OK with Win7 and find 7 or 10 equally effective.


42 posted on 11/16/2015 4:52:54 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: dayglored

Of course volume license site doesn’t have the updated ISO yet...


43 posted on 11/16/2015 7:14:33 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: TruthWillWin
I have Windows 7, and have been stymied every time I've tried to upgrade, getting a "something happened" error message.

I have literally spent hours searching the web for a solution, to no avail.

Does Microsoft not understand the concept "user friendly?"

I'm finally throwing in the towel, and staying with Windows 7 (not that I have much choice).

And, from what I'm reading here and elsewhere, perhaps I am better off.

44 posted on 11/16/2015 7:32:27 AM PST by daler
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To: dayglored

I went over to W10 from 7 and went back to 7 after I didn’t care for 10. Now, my W7 won’t stay in sleep or hibernation. Any ideas?


45 posted on 11/16/2015 6:31:08 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: Ouderkirk; dayglored; Scutter
I had purchased the Win8 upgrade for $49 for my systems that had XP. For the price I was willing to take a chance on it. Win8 was a disaster from the GUI perspective and I really hated it. I took the Win10 upgrade as soon as I could.

I got a Win8 upgrade for $29 with a (months-to-get) rebate card, and saw the playground metro, and thought like, "there must be some freeware to correct this," and so Googled to that effect and quickly found Classic Shell , thanks be to God.

As explained in Windows 8 pro review (upgrade XP to Windows 8 with Classic Shell), you can make W/8 look and work much like XP/W/7 and improve both, for free.

See here on how to do things like get the Quick Launch bar back.

Classic Shell also improves the bloated Start menu in W/10.

But note that I largely bypass Windows defaults, except for system and most program files and a few profiles (in User folder).

My Quick Launch is actually a folder on another (data) partition, replete with organized folders for shortcut to programs, including portable ones that stay in that partition.

Also Right Click Extender allows you to add a lot of things to the right click menu, and AutoHotKey enables custom scripts for launching apps and programs, which scripts i save. likewise my User, Desktop and Send to folders are backed up before upgrading or a clean install (although Windows does save a previous installed OS in a folder for a little while).

And i try to keep the same user name in the case of a clean install. Thus in a short time after a new install you can have your functionality back.

Thank God we can customize and for those who help us do it.

46 posted on 11/16/2015 6:35:14 PM PST by daniel1212 (authTurn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: dayglored
And remember folks, you can't turn these updates off long-term, or you lose support -- you gotta take 'em.

But you can delay the updates, as i did for about a week.

47 posted on 11/16/2015 6:36:35 PM PST by daniel1212 (authTurn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: hsmomx3

Solid State Drive..


48 posted on 11/16/2015 6:40:45 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: TomGuy

I imaged to DVD...It takes a while but with the system repair disk you can wash your computer out and reinstall your OS exactly as you had it.

As a precaution I also imaged to a external drive.


49 posted on 11/16/2015 6:42:52 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: daler

I have a old desktop that does not like w10...

It was a original VISTA machine upgraded to w7.

If I do get it loaded, I have to remove it because of kernel crashes.

My best guess, as the logs are of little or no help, is that it’s something in the older mother board or other hardware. w-10 replaces drivers as it loads, my gear does not like the driver, I believe..


50 posted on 11/16/2015 6:48:16 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat

Having said that, my lap top loves it..It’s like a new machine...the 6million dolar man...faster, better....yadda


51 posted on 11/16/2015 6:49:44 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: headstamp 2
Check your "Power" settings, including the "Advanced" ones that they steer you away from. Chances are that your leap into W10 and then back has left some changes behind.

I doubt that it's a permanent change (i.e. in hardware) so it should be possible to get it going again with the power settings.

52 posted on 11/16/2015 6:50:31 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

Thank you! I got it.


53 posted on 11/17/2015 6:52:40 AM PST by headstamp 2
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