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Remember, remember! The fifth of November
BBC ^ | November 5th, 1605 | Guy Fawkes

Posted on 11/05/2015 8:18:58 AM PST by thackney

Remember, remember!

The fifth of November,

The Gunpowder treason and plot;

I know of no reason

Why the Gunpowder treason

Should ever be forgot!

Guy Fawkes and his companions

Did the scheme contrive,

To blow the King and Parliament

All up alive.

Threescore barrels, laid below,

To prove old England's overthrow.

But, by God's providence, him they catch,

With a dark lantern, lighting a match!

A stick and a stake

For King James's sake!

If you won't give me one,

I'll take two,

The better for me,

And the worse for you.

A rope, a rope, to hang the Pope,

A penn'orth of cheese to choke him,

A pint of beer to wash it down,

And a jolly good fire to burn him.

Holloa, boys! holloa, boys! make the bells ring!

Holloa, boys! holloa boys! God save the King!

Hip, hip, hooor-r-r-ray!

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: gunpowder; guyfawkes; plot; treason
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1 posted on 11/05/2015 8:18:58 AM PST by thackney
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To: thackney

If only they felt the same way about the Muslim threat.


2 posted on 11/05/2015 8:22:02 AM PST by MUDDOG
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3 posted on 11/05/2015 8:24:22 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Trump/Cruz - Because you gotta win, first.)
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To: thackney

I recently read up on the Guy Fawkes tradition.

Sadly in England, the origins of the day are almost forgotten. In fact, there are only a few places where public remembrances are done - Greater London, mainly.

There are still some public bonfires in places.


4 posted on 11/05/2015 8:28:59 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: Old Sarge

I’ve noted there’s a lot of excitement about the event, but most are unclear about which side of the issue to support. I could see similar sentiment here.


5 posted on 11/05/2015 8:32:55 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Trump/Cruz - Because you gotta win, first.)
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To: thackney

Highly recommended reading, rooted in the Guy Fawkes legend.

Movie version was good, but do read the book first. Yes it's heavily illustrated.

6 posted on 11/05/2015 8:36:48 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Trump/Cruz - Because you gotta win, first.)
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To: ctdonath2

The paper isn’t allowing commentary, so I would be pretty sure that at this point folks think Fawkes was right.


7 posted on 11/05/2015 8:37:03 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: ctdonath2

Movie version was ponderous, awful, and had an idiotic homage to Islam.


8 posted on 11/05/2015 8:48:55 AM PST by FredZarguna (Eat pork: Annoy the UN.)
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To: thackney

Guy Fawkes Day is one of those things I never heard about growing up. I knew little about til recently and still don’t. A friend from Britain has told me some about it, but no details stuck with me.

It’s an English thing, a European thing. I think it’s just as well that we are ignorant of it.


9 posted on 11/05/2015 8:52:23 AM PST by ifinnegan
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George Washington put the kibosh on Guy Fawkes Day in the Continental Army which, I think, played a large role in the day not really catching on much in the US.

"As the Commander in Chief has been apprized of a design form'd for the observance of that ridiculous and childish custom of burning the Effigy of the pope - He cannot help expressing his surprise that there should be Officers and Soldiers in this army so void of common sense, as not to see the impropriety of such a step at this Juncture; at a Time when we are solliciting, and have really obtain'd, the friendship and alliance of the people of Canada, whom we ought to consider as Brethren embarked in the same Cause. The defence of the general Liberty of America: At such a juncture, and in such Circumstances, to be insulting their Religion, is so monstrous, as not to be suffered or excused; indeed instead of offering the most remote insult, it is our duty to address public thanks to these our Brethren, as to them we are so much indebted for every late happy Success over the common Enemy in Canada." ~ Order in Quarters, General George Washington, November 5, 1775.

10 posted on 11/05/2015 9:02:08 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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To: ifinnegan

Murderous Rebellion against the government for religious persecution.

So wonder if it had not been for a delay in the meeting of Parliament due to the lingering traces of bubonic plague in London, King James, Queen Anne, his eldest son and both Houses of Parliament might have all been killed in a single event.


11 posted on 11/05/2015 9:04:02 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Temptation. One of mine is the chronic suspicion that killing politicians is right in principle. It isn’t, of course, despite the fact that politicians seem bent on proving otherwise.


12 posted on 11/05/2015 9:10:45 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Thanks.


13 posted on 11/05/2015 9:19:45 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: thackney

Interesting.


14 posted on 11/05/2015 9:20:10 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Old Sarge

When I lived there in the 90’s (Yorkshire) there were lots of bonfires at pubs and public parks. Fireworks, too. Then there were our local kids who would make a ‘Guy’ and display him and ask ‘penny for the Guy’ as people passed.


15 posted on 11/05/2015 9:21:57 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I remember my reading about both - and that they said the meaning and significance was being forgotten.

Odd, that...


16 posted on 11/05/2015 9:27:00 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: thackney

Bookmark for later


17 posted on 11/05/2015 9:31:54 AM PST by kalee
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To: thackney
On Guy Fawkes Day, I like to show the clip of what would have happened if he had succeeded in getting the gunpowder lit off. The BBC did a documentary a few years ago with Richard Hammond (of Top Gear fame) as the presenter. They went through the history of what happened, then went out and built a replica of the 1605 Parliament building and used the same amount of gunpowder Fawkes had laid on for the plot.

What might have happened? Let's find out...

Guy Fawkes Gunpowder Plot...would it have worked?

18 posted on 11/05/2015 9:36:31 AM PST by hoagy62 (Timid Men prefer the 'Calm of Despotism' to the 'Tempestuous Sea of Liberty'. ~ T. Jefferson)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Nice piece from Washington; a nearby Catholic Church has a stained glass window which includes excerpts from a speech by Washington expressing gratitude to the Catholic peoples of Spain & France for their aid during the Revolutionary War. He was specific in mentioning their faith.


19 posted on 11/05/2015 9:36:55 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Billthedrill

The problem that objective moral rational upstanding citizens must face about that question is that crazed lunatics will take decisive, albeit wrong, action with consequences the rest of us will have to cope with and take blame for.


20 posted on 11/05/2015 9:42:06 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Trump/Cruz - Because you gotta win, first.)
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