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Greenies have driven the price of R-22 and Freon-12 to hundreds of dollars, and asthma inhalers (or, as Obama calls them, breathalyzers) no longer work properly. The supposed culprit, CFC, has been driven away. Yet, the ozone hole is still with us. Another FAIL for big government.
1 posted on 11/02/2015 5:02:14 AM PST by norwaypinesavage
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God knows what he is doing. We don’t. We’re just plain vain.


2 posted on 11/02/2015 5:06:34 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Yet will you ever hear any green weenie admit that the whole CFC boogeyman was just overheated guesswork that cost millions of dollars and accomplished exactly bupkus?


3 posted on 11/02/2015 5:11:29 AM PST by IronJack
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No, but we made whoever developed that next generation refrigerant pretty damn rich....I think it was 3M or some biggie like that.


4 posted on 11/02/2015 5:17:20 AM PST by Gaffer
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The solution to ozone depletion is to run a lot of electric motors with brushes.....


5 posted on 11/02/2015 5:26:50 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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There was nothing wrong with it to begin with !


6 posted on 11/02/2015 5:28:01 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (I think therefore im Dangerous to the liberal agenda !)
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A big failure of backbone on Ronald Reagan’s part for signing the Montreal treaty. This campaign was so successful for the liberals in creating a world problem solvable by extra taxes it provided the frame work to establish the global warming scam.


7 posted on 11/02/2015 5:39:45 AM PST by Raycpa
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Why are we not dead yet? The alarmists told us we’d all get cancer.


8 posted on 11/02/2015 5:40:03 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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The ozone ‘hole’ is just a thinning of the ozone layer.

It never was a hole.

Sometimes the thinning got to be just over 10%!

Shocking what colorized renditions of thinning can look like to naive fools...


9 posted on 11/02/2015 5:42:17 AM PST by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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Greenies have driven the price of R-22 and Freon-12 to hundreds of dollars, and asthma inhalers (or, as Obama calls them, breathalyzers) no longer work properly. The supposed culprit, CFC, has been driven away. Yet, the ozone hole is still with us. Another FAIL for big government.

Yup. I spent many years in the automotive repair industry about the time of the transition away from Freon to R-134A.

Immediately we began to get complaints from customers of a "musty" smell when drivers would turn on their A/C. It seems that the old refrigerants had disinfectant qualities that the new coolant simply didn't possess. All types of bacteria would find your car's ventilation system to be hospitable for rapid growth.

The fix? Well, disinfectant sprays into the vents was a partial cure, and we began to suggest simply that the fresh air mode on the A/C unit be utilized full-time.

No telling how many medical conditions were fostered and exacerbated by injecting your car with dangerous microbe critters every time you ran your A/C.

10 posted on 11/02/2015 5:42:28 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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I remember when the ozone hole was the biggest scare, mentioned as the not-to-be-questioned cause of every ill in nature, much as climate change is now.
Libs are good at fixing problems that don't exist, with money we don't have.
Wonder what the next scare in the pipeline will be.
They need something to keep this scam going.

11 posted on 11/02/2015 5:50:02 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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There is no invented problem that cannot be fixed by the government fouling up everything. Then more problems need to be solved by the government that caused them and the solutions keep coming as we lose all liberty.

Government grows like the cancer it is.


12 posted on 11/02/2015 5:57:57 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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Just wait until you see energy prices in a few years after we agree to the Paris global warming scam agreement in a few weeks.


13 posted on 11/02/2015 6:03:42 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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The "Ozone Hole" is just another eco-fraud, like the coming ice age, acid rain and global warming. They are all just artifical crises that can be blamed on evil greedy capitalists and can be used to get otherwise rational people to act against their own best interest.

(See Dr. Thomas Sowell's "The Vision of the Anointed".)

14 posted on 11/02/2015 6:04:25 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Gold, Platinum, Silver and Lead. Not necessarily in that order...)
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Maybe the ozone hole is nature’s blowhole to allow certain gases to escape?😊


15 posted on 11/02/2015 6:11:44 AM PST by amihow
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Just another scam perpetrated on the sheep. Some corp paid off a politician to get the product banned so he could sell his other product for 10 times as much. F’n corrupt US politicians.


16 posted on 11/02/2015 6:14:59 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (The last suit you wear has no pockets!)
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It’s called WINTER DOWN THERE at the other side of the world!!

The don’t get MUCH SUN down there to break up O2 and get Ozone, ya see.

Happens EVERY DAMN YEAR about this time.

BORING, all this is.


18 posted on 11/02/2015 6:18:53 AM PST by Flintlock (Our soapbox is gone, the ballot box stolen--we're left with the bullet box now.)
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This is a great post!!

Remember all the science deniers in the 1990's? All the scientific community was on board?????

One of the huge problems with CFC theory is how heavy CFC compounds floated all the way to the ozone layer. Well the answer, trade winds over time would eventually blow CFC all the way up to 6.6M. Now no one ever questioned the amount of energy required for this answer let alone the implication that the time required was 50 years. Note the chart below from the article.

Under the ozone theory, the "hole" observed in 1985 was the result of CFC from the 1930's. Relatively light production at that time. However, CFC exploded in the 40's during WW2 and again in the 50's with consumer boom. YET the "hole" doesn't grow in the 90's or 2000's? Note, CFC further expanded in the 1960's yet really no trend change in the "hole"

21 posted on 11/02/2015 6:40:23 AM PST by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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It's been many years since I took a chemistry class but if my memory is correct, ozone is formed when radiation from the sun strikes an oxygen atom.In space the sun shines most of the time
23 posted on 11/02/2015 10:17:09 AM PST by dearolddad (/i>)
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