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Thinking the unthinkable: A case for orchestration
10/2/2015 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 10/02/2015 7:23:45 AM PDT by Lazamataz

I am increasingly suspicious -- almost convinced -- that these spree-shootings are orchestrated. Let us consider: Only days after Boehner resigns (but stays around through October, able to defy his base) TWO mass shooting events occur within hours of one another: The college in Oregon, and a lesser-publicized Inglis, Florida mass-shooting.

If Obama seemed angry, I suspect it was because the second shooting was so small. Note how the two shootings make a perfect diagonal across the country, symbolically book-ending us with violence.

It's really hard to be the point-man in this controversial subject -- that the mentally-ill and medicated can and are manipulated to commit acts of mass murder for political gain -- but point-man, I shall be. I'll take the catcalls of "conspiracy theorist" and "tin foil hat wearer" and so on. So long as the dialogue is started, I'll take the heat.

It is actually well-known that low-level microwave radiation can cause deleterious mental effects on the brain:

Effect of low level microwave radiation exposure on cognitive function and oxidative stress in rats.

Non-Thermal Effect of Microwave Radiation on Human Brain

Nervous and behavioral effects of microwave radiation in humans.

Some of the effects are irritability, sleeplessness, and bad decision-making skills. In the 1970's, the Soviets were bombarding the American embassy in Moscow with these radiations. We objected strongly, and our cover-story was that there were passive eavesdropping devices in the walls... but from the publicly-available research, we know that there was an additional -- perhaps primary -- concern. That concern was that our personnel's mental acuity was lessened by these radiations.

This microwave effect is something we already know is factual. This research is public. What research is there, classified as secret (or beyond) on manipulating and directing a mentally-ill, medicated individual to perform acts suggested by a handler?

The CIA has had decades of experience in 'handling' people, by an agent, to perform actions that are in the Agency's best interests. The experience is out there.

Before anyone tells me that Obama and his minions would never allow innocents to come to harm in order to advance a gun control agenda, I remind you of Fast and Furious (the ATF gun-running scandal). In this scandal, semi-automatic firearms were allowed to end up in the hands of Mexican drug gangs. Many innocent people died, slain by the firearms made available by Fast and Furious. Obama has shown quite clearly, the ability to promote the death of innocent people so that he can get his precious gun bans.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: fbi; massshooting; mentalillness; microwaveradiation; schoolshooting; schoolshootings; tinhat
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To: jsanders2001

^ excuse the typos


121 posted on 10/02/2015 10:06:17 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Lazamataz

The guy that was tagged on FR as the shooter looks very, very much like who the cops have now identified. The two have similar quirks and lifestyles. The one first tagged was thought to have been the same guy who was posting on a wacko message board that he was going to shoot up a school in the NW yesterday (linked on the long thread yesterday). One of his youtube rants from the day before said he was currently in Seattle as if he had just arrived. Seattle is 5 hours from the college. Is this all just a weird coincidence? Then there’s the French train coinky dink. There seems to be a lot of weird coincidences since ‘08.


122 posted on 10/02/2015 10:07:38 AM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: exit82

Oh oh. The second you said “Lee Remick”, I felt something come over me, something got triggered, and now I will probably spend the better part of the day thinking about Lee Remick........especially in “The Long Hot Summer”.


123 posted on 10/02/2015 10:08:38 AM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make-up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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To: Boogieman
Respectfully submitted: MKUltra had much of it redacted, and the occasional minor success would have been redacted as well. However, I agree, on the whole. MKUltra was mostly a failure.

Much more effective mood alteration techniques were later found. One method that was effective, was achieved in the 1960's and 1970's with low-level microwaves. The resulting effects are irritability, sleeplessness, and poor decision making abilities. The Soviets beamed low-level microwaves at the American embassy in the 1970's.

Furthermore, check the (presumably personally-experienced) posts of jsanders2001. He sounds like he knows his stuff, and may have actually used psych techniques to manipulate people. This stuff is real.

I am asking us to consider that the tools that actually work, may be being applied by this entirely-evil administration for nefarious purposes.

124 posted on 10/02/2015 10:08:43 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: jsanders2001

This is fascinating. Thank you for revealing a possible methodology.


125 posted on 10/02/2015 10:09:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: bgill
Ok this morning during Fox and Friends First, I saw a clip of a man who they said was the "shooters" father. The graphic stated John Hanlan or O'Hanlan. I didn't think anything of it. It appeared to be a media interview maybe out side the guys house. Neither the man or his daughter appeared to be crying.

So jump ahead I get to work, check out some news sites. This very same man is now being identified as Ian Mercer.

Now also while you are thinking about this. The first reports were that the "shooter was a 20 year old and was in custody. Then it was reported that he was 26 and dead.

The Facebook page replaced a Facebook page of the "shooter" and had seemed to have popped out of no where. No long history. The media also referenced MySpace. No one uses that anymore. Fox news also has a shot of speaking to the interim CC President, and behind her is a pallet of bottled water and coolers. Then look at all the 'students" milling about. They all have the same water bottles. Still checking things out.

126 posted on 10/02/2015 10:10:00 AM PDT by defconw (Fight all error, and do it with good humor, patience, kindness and love. -St. John Cantius)
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To: Lazamataz

Given the level of venality (at best) and outright, in-your-face corruption in so many branches of government, I wouldn’t rule out that some significant percentage of what we see and hear thru media, and the events they cover are orchestrated, plotted, planned.

The only thing that tempers my suspicions in this regard is the almost unfathomable degree of incompetence exhibited by a majority of government.


127 posted on 10/02/2015 10:10:23 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: defconw

False flags are flying all over the place on this one.


128 posted on 10/02/2015 10:12:01 AM PDT by uncitizen (OUT with all RINOS!)
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To: Lazamataz

One recent killer had liberal handlers who took him around to colleges to show students that ‘right wingers really were crazy’... I think there was a Southern Poverty Law center connection with that guy.

The kid who killed the black Christians - the one with the zombie thing where he said he ‘was suppose to kill himself but ran out of bullets’ smacked of Russian mind control... AND he had a black friend who went on TV and said he knew this guy for years and he didn’t hate blacks.

If there’s a chance liberals are behind this we can count on one ‘right wing’ nut every few months until the election. Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet, right?

Full tin foil... but possible..


129 posted on 10/02/2015 10:12:32 AM PDT by GOPJ ("The Lives of Others" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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To: Lazamataz

This is SOP / manipulation fieldcraft for CIA case officers / operatives in the field. The People need to wake up to the fact they are not as intelligent as they think they are and know what they are potentionally dealing with...


130 posted on 10/02/2015 10:14:11 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: GOPJ
There are a lot of inconsistencies with the Sandy Hook, the Virginia News Crew, the one you reference and the Boston bombing as well.
131 posted on 10/02/2015 10:16:11 AM PDT by defconw (Fight all error, and do it with good humor, patience, kindness and love. -St. John Cantius)
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To: Finny
...you "realists" who know better than to believe tinfoil hat conspiracies of organized wickedness on the part of corrupt governments --

Certainly, there are many corrupt, evil things our government and governments around the world do. That is a fact, and has been a fact my entire life (and well before), no matter who has been president.

That does not, however, mean I buy into a "theory" that President Obama has an army of drug-addled zombies available at his disposal to commit mass shootings whenever politically convenient.

Some people are nuts. Some are evil. Some are both.

132 posted on 10/02/2015 10:16:47 AM PDT by gdani (No sacred cows)
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To: Talisker
Your posts regularly piss me off, you seem to be positively attracted to going too far.

Then I am doing my job well. ;^)

But this time you’ve done very well, and I must agree. There is a very noticeable pattern here no one is talking about. In addition to microwaves, which have been literally multiplied by a billion by cell towers, antidepressants are also rife, especially amongst the Left. And the symptoms of each multiply the other. Good job.

Thanks man. I actually don't think microwaves are doing a thing in regards to these shootings. My only point in mentioning microwaves is to show that direct emotional effects can be created in a person using external forces.

P.S. Notice I have heroically refrained from discussing the influence of heavy metal poisoning from chemtrails.

Personally I don't believe the chemtrail deal. Contrails are only water vapor. The amount of chemicals that would need to be released is dwarfed by the size of the country. Remember, we used to deal with pollution by simply releasing it and hoping for dilution.

133 posted on 10/02/2015 10:17:32 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: Lazamataz

Ephesians 6

134 posted on 10/02/2015 10:18:44 AM PDT by Prospero (Omnis caro fenum)
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To: jsanders2001; Travis McGee
You should write a book. I'm not kidding. Or maybe work with Travis.

TM: jsanders has been there and done that. Read backwards. He might be a good resource for any of your upcoming fiction.

135 posted on 10/02/2015 10:19:20 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: huldah1776

pdf format for first link available in full:

http://nopr.niscair.res.in/bitstream/123456789/17108/1/IJBB%2050%282%29%20114-119.pdf


136 posted on 10/02/2015 10:23:12 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Lazamataz

What was going on when mass shootings happened during other administrations? If mass shootings increase when we have a hypothetical Cruz administration, what would that mean?

I mean, say mass/social media does have something to do with an increase or perceived increase in crazy mass shooting instances. Seems to me it would naturally happen the most during the period when social media has grown the most and become most prevalently used. Which is now, and all through the Obama regime.

Freegards


137 posted on 10/02/2015 10:23:28 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Lazamataz
I actually don't think microwaves are doing a thing in regards to these shootings. My only point in mentioning microwaves is to show that direct emotional effects can be created in a person using external forces. ... The amount of chemicals that would need to be released is dwarfed by the size of the country.

I think it's a matter of potency, and of thresholds. Millions of people don't commit mass murder - most notice nothing. But amongst millions of people, there's a statistical percentage of those who will experience increased stress and instability.

They can be identified, manipulated, directed, and given a gun and a target by a network of handlers.

Its just a matter of coordination, and playing the odds.

138 posted on 10/02/2015 10:24:19 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Lazamataz
I'd like to peek in the Snowden files and see if anything like this is in there.

Putin knows...................

139 posted on 10/02/2015 10:25:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Lazamataz

“Much more effective mood alteration techniques were later found. One method that was effective, was achieved in the 1960’s and 1970’s with low-level microwaves.”

No actual documentation of that as far as I know. Just the usual conspiracy theories.

“Furthermore, check the (presumably personally-experienced) posts of jsanders2001.”

I don’t buy into anonymous internet anecdotes as evidence.


140 posted on 10/02/2015 10:26:14 AM PDT by Boogieman
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