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Hillary Was the CNN Debate’s Real Winner—Seriously
Daily Beast ^ | 9-17-2015 | Michael Tomasky

Posted on 09/17/2015 10:54:13 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

Sure, she’s had a rough few months, but she’s still the massive favorite to win the Democratic nomination. But more than that, it’s clearer than ever that these people are jokers. Well, that was all kind of...interminable. For a time there in the middle, I thought Ben Carson had strolled out to perform some elective surgery. I guess we kind of agree that Carly Fiorina won, since she did manage to convey some real or at least manufactured-real passion on about three or four occasions.

But you wanna know who really won that debate? Hillary Clinton. Go ahead, go ahead, laugh all you want. Yes, her stock is selling awfully low right now. Nate Silver says, accurately, that she is in a “self-reinforcing funk” right now and that there’s no obvious way out for the time being.

But consider. She is still the overwhelming favorite to be the Democratic nominee. She still leads the Republicans in a strong majority of the general election head-to-head match-ups. And that’s after two horrible media months in which, by Silver’s count, she has endured 29 negative news stories while enjoying just one positive one. All that, and she’s still mostly ahead.

And being the Democrat, she has the Electoral College advantage  that any plausible Democrat has these days because the GOP has just positioned itself too far right to win states that it regularly won back in the Nixon-to-Bush Sr. era. That advantage is either 257 electoral votes that tilt strongly Democratic, or 247, if you put Iowa and New Hampshire on the fence as, for example, Larry Sabato does.

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Well if we're getting 10 times the turnout watching the debates, can we expect 10 times the turnout at the polls in 2016?

The press is so vicious maybe the Pubs will get sympathy votes too?

1 posted on 09/17/2015 10:54:13 AM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

Tomasky is an idiot.


2 posted on 09/17/2015 10:55:43 AM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust: It corrodes 24 hours a day until eradicated.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Great, they’re now pushing iCarly as much as they pushed Heb! Boosh previously.


3 posted on 09/17/2015 10:56:35 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: x1stcav

maybe a name change is in order

the Daily RUBE??


4 posted on 09/17/2015 10:56:42 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Citizen Zed

The #1 winner is... CNN!
http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/17/media/cnn-republican-debate-ratings/index.html

“Wednesday’s prime time GOP debate averaged 22.9 million viewers, making it the most-watched program in CNN’s history.”

Of course getting the Rs to attack each other for 3 hours didn’t hurt Hillary any.


5 posted on 09/17/2015 10:57:10 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Citizen Zed

Stopped reading at “Daily Beast”.


6 posted on 09/17/2015 10:57:46 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: x1stcav
Tomasky is an idiot.

Please. The polite expression is "Tomasky is a low-information voter."

7 posted on 09/17/2015 10:57:55 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: x1stcav

Hillary won’t win any head to head with any Republican. The country HATES her. If it didn’t it would not have nominated a no-account dimwit ahead of her in 2008. And she is worse, in every way now than she was then.


8 posted on 09/17/2015 10:58:53 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: x1stcav

Whistling through the graveyard.


9 posted on 09/17/2015 11:00:40 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Partisan Media Shill Alert!


10 posted on 09/17/2015 11:01:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: fhayek

She “won” the NY senate seat through outright fraud and disabled voting machines.
In the lead-up to the election she repeatedly said she WOULD be senator, it was a setup from the start.
Her “I’m not listening” tour of NY was full of people shouting at her “GO HOME”.

I know she’s going to be pulling dirty crap, unless something happens to her campaign to completely flatline her bid.


11 posted on 09/17/2015 11:01:35 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Citizen Zed

A liberal thinks Hillary won. What a shock.


12 posted on 09/17/2015 11:03:19 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Steely Tom

Tomasky is an idiot. .................................. Go easy on him, he is only following the orders from the Democrat Commissariat. They will never support Trump or anyone else for that matter. Do you think if Fiorina ran Tomasky would vote for her? Worthless dribble from a worthless source.


13 posted on 09/17/2015 11:05:35 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: VanDeKoik

better yet- stop allowing that trash to be posted on FR...


14 posted on 09/17/2015 11:07:50 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Citizen Zed
Memo To Michael Tomasky:

Click the Pic

15 posted on 09/17/2015 11:09:07 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Citizen Zed

Tomasky? What a fool...


16 posted on 09/17/2015 11:09:08 AM PDT by GOPJ (Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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To: Citizen Zed

Why wouldn’t you or I think Hillary won?

When the Republican Party chooses hostile CNN to moderate the debate, and when the candidates choose to ping on Trump and ping on each other rather than make the case for personal liberty, free markets, limited government regulation, strong military forces and assertive foreign policy, instead of beating the hell out of the media and beating the hell out of Hillary, Sanders, Biden, and Warren, the of course Hillary won.

If the Republicans were smart, they would present the candidates as representatives of conservatism, where any of them would be better than the Dem alternatives, and a cabinet of like-minded Republicans would be better than the hundreds of Marxist / Socialists a Democrat would place into appointee positions.


17 posted on 09/17/2015 11:12:26 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: VanDeKoik

You might as well be reading The Onion.


18 posted on 09/17/2015 11:15:17 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Citizen Zed

Tomasky is further to the left than Bernie Sanders.

He’s to be dismissed out of hand.


19 posted on 09/17/2015 11:18:45 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged, you're part of the problem.)
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To: Citizen Zed
Go ahead, go ahead, laugh all you want.


20 posted on 09/17/2015 11:25:27 AM PDT by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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