Posted on 09/15/2015 8:06:32 PM PDT by massmike
In the book, Aborting Aristotle: Examining Fatal Fallacies in the Abortion, pro-life author Dave Sterrett said he met a Presbyterian minister who believed a baby isn’t truly a person until he or she has been loved.
He explained, “A Presbyterian minister in my city once said that he would support his teenage daughter to get an abortion. When another pastor asked him, ‘When do you believe a human person begins to exist?’ The Presbyterian minister replied, ‘I think someone becomes a person when they are loved.’”
This is a fascinating view on personhood, especially coming from a Christian religious leader who is supposed to give the most weight to what God says about the matter. However, the minister’s comments are not all that surprising considering the official stance of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) on abortion, which is that “the considered decision of a woman to terminate a pregnancy [by abortion] can be a morally acceptable, though certainly not the only or required, decision.”
As LifeNews previously reported, Presbyterian ministers have made some outlandish comments about abortion and the abortion industry in the last decade. For example, Presbyterian Church (USA) minister, Andrew Kukla, explained on his blog that he loves everything about Planned Parenthood, the abortion company that was caught trafficking and profiting off of aborted babies’ body parts in July. He said, “I love Planned Parenthood. I love the people that are Planned Parenthood. I love their ministry. I love that they live resurrection in a way I only talk about it.”
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Exactly! Nobody who has accepted Jesus can be so clueless imo.
At what point does God love them, minister?
By the same token, I can think of at least one minister that is an unperson..
So...
If the gentleman
(I will not refer to him as a minister, for no fruit of such is evident)
were to be universally hated,
he would cease to be a person,
and subject to termination?
I was a Presbyterian all my life. I don’t trust them anymore. I follow Jesus on my own.
I never get used to Ministers and Priests who know so little about the GOD they’re supposed to be serving.
If you love GOD and you know in your heart he has saved you, you could never utter such foolish words as, “... an unborn baby only becomes a person when they are loved”.
I am blown away.
How repulsive.
Evidently its possible to be a Christian minister without being a Christian first.
No he is just collecting the money.
You go eat worms.
I suspect even most non-religious people would find that answer as stupid as I do.
The pro-abortion movement is a veritable museum of the demonic, including the demonic perversion and darkening of the intellect.
This is why you can spot a phony “pro-life” politician a mile away. E.g., any Bush, or Romney, or McCain, or Dole—the type who says: “There are good people on both sides of this issue.”
No. There. Are. Not.
Among pro-lifers, there are good and bad people. Among pro-aborts, there are only demonic, wicked people. Sometimes these demonic, wicked people do convert.
I wonder when a woman abused by her boyfriend or husband becomes human. I guess she has to find someone who loves her before she can be protected. Otherwise she is disposable like unborn babies whose moms want to get rid of them. The same for an abused child. It must be ok to abuse an unloved child because they really aren’t human until someone loves them. Apparently God’s love doesn’t count to this creepy evil minister. When a right to live is dependent on someone else loving them then that right becomes very precarious.
Then they are all persons because God is a person and God loved them before they were born, or even conceived.
These are people that need stoning for heresy and wicked sowing of confusion and lies.
Not funny, not even close. Was that your intent?
So this guy thinks it would be okay to kill the homeless?
By logical extension, abusive parents who hate their children can just go on hating and hurting their children, even killing them would be okay to this demonic pastor - after all, a child who is not loved has no value according to this pastor.
That about sums it up.
All three of them?
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