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Like It Or Not, Microsoft Silently Downloads Windows 10, Grabbing Valuable Disk Space
Hot Hardware ^ | 09/11/2015 | Brandon Hill

Posted on 09/11/2015 9:18:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Just when we thought that all the hoopla surrounding privacy in Windows 10 and questionable disclosure practices was starting to die down, Microsoft has to go and stir the pot once again with another seemingly overzealous move. It’s not enough that Windows 10 is installed on over 75 million PCs and counting; Microsoft is aiming for one billion installs within the next two to three years.

And to get to that one billion figure, Microsoft wants to entice customers to upgrade their Windows 7 and Windows 8 machines to Windows 10. Making the upgrade free during the first year of availability is a big factor in getting people to make the upgrade, but Microsoft is also wanting the upgrade process to proceed smoothly, minimizing any installation glitches and cutting down on download/install times for the operating system.

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No need for this prompt, Microsoft will download Windows 10 without user intervention

It’s that last point that has Microsoft facing enormous heat this morning — even from diehard Microsoft supporters. As it stands now, customers are given the choice to install Windows 10 if they wish. Microsoft has a little pop-up that appears for Windows 7 and Windows 8 users that allows them to reserve their copy of Windows 10 and install at their leisure. If you choose to proceed with installing Windows 10, you enter in your email address and wait patiently for the download to proceed. It was assumed that if you didn’t want to install Windows 10, you could just ignore the prompt and go about your business without any further intrusion from Microsoft.

That isn’t the case, however, says The Inquirer. One of the publication’s observant readers discovered a massive $Windows.~BT folder on his machine despite the fact that he never gave Microsoft the “go ahead” to initiate the Windows 10 download/installation process.

The symptoms are repeated failed 'Upgrade to Windows 10' in the WU update history and a huge 3.5GB to 6GB hidden folder labelled '$Windows.~BT'. I thought Microsoft [said] this 'upgrade' was optional. If so, why is it being pushed out to so many computers where it wasn't reserved, and why does it try to install over and over again? 

I know of two instances where people on metered connections went over their data cap for August because of this unwanted download. My own internet (slow DSL) was crawling for a week or so until I discovered this problem. In fact, that's what led me to it. Not only does it download, it tries to install every time the computer is booted.

Not cool, Microsoft, not cool at all. If this is true, sneakily downloading a multi-gigabyte operating system in the background without the customer’s express consent is rather bold, especially in an age when some customers may be on metered connections or simply don’t have the disk space to spare to accommodate a 6GB install. Microsoft has already come under fire for forced automatic updates in Windows 10, which have hit those with metered connections hard.

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With that being said, what’s Microsoft position on all of this? How could the company possibly explain why it is forcing Windows 10 installation files on to customers’ computers without permission? Surely the company has a reasonable explanation for its actions? In a statement to The Register, a Microsoft spokesperson wrote:

For individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through Windows Update, we help upgradable devices get ready for Windows 10 by downloading the files they’ll need if they decide to upgrade.

When the upgrade is ready, the customer will be prompted to install Windows 10 on the device.

In Microsoft’s eyes, if you have agreed to automatic updates in Windows, it’s fair game to send Windows 10 down the pipe. Making Windows 10 freely available to a large portion of the Windows install base should be reason enough to get many customers to upgrade. The awesome new features in Windows 10 like Continuum, the return of the Start Menu, and even Xbox One game streaming are great reasons to upgrade to Windows 10. But let the customers choose when he or she is ready to commit to downloading a massive ISO — don’t make the choice for them on the chance that they might want to upgrade in the future.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: classactionsuit; microsoft; microsoftupdates; windows; windows10; windows7; windowspinglist
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To: SeekAndFind

36 = 3.
Ooops.


101 posted on 09/13/2015 6:38:24 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (If I knew I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.)
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To: TChad

Thank you, thank you!! Your post plus the link explains a lot. May I suggust you post the article as a separate FR thread for the benefit of all.


102 posted on 09/13/2015 7:40:14 AM PDT by CedarDave (Hillary for incarceration not inauguration)
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To: newfreep

It’s up to you, really. My personal recommendation is to wait at least 6 months. That’s a long enough window to let any development hiccups work themselves out.


103 posted on 09/13/2015 11:46:11 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Steely Tom
I have disabled that option, and will never trust Microsoft to manage my operating system updates again.

This is sage advice for anyone wanting to maintain their sanity with an operating system. There are a multitude of examples one could find online that show that Microsoft updates have had problems in the past. Our corporate update change control processes were changed drastically after an Office update crippled our clients. We went almost a full work day with no email, and people were freaking out. (In retrospect, it's funny how much we rely on email.)

I recommend this same advice for Apple and Google devices as well. Updates are not flawless. The developers are often smart and do their smoke tests and regression testing, but that never accounts for every possible contingency. And if there's one thing I know about clients, they have no problem throwing engineers and admins curveballs when it comes to software support.

104 posted on 09/13/2015 11:51:01 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: CedarDave
You're welcome. I'm glad it helped you, but I won't get around to posting it as an article. There should be a downloadable block-Win-10 program somewhere that both uninstalls the patches and hides the updates, but I didn't find one. If I do find one, I might post that.

I only learned after posting that Microsoft has started pushing these as important updates, not optional updates.

Eventually I will migrate a bunch of computers to Win 10, but I will not permit Microsoft to force me to use version 1.0 of their new operating system. My rule with new versions of Windows is to wait until the first service pack comes out before installing. For Win 10, I will either wait until SP1 arrives, or until the free upgrade offer is about to expire.

Microsoft will support Windows 7 until 2020.

105 posted on 09/13/2015 9:02:07 PM PDT by TChad
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To: TChad
Thanks, then hope you don't mind my posting the article later today.
106 posted on 09/14/2015 7:46:55 AM PDT by CedarDave (Hillary for incarceration not inauguration)
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To: Steely Tom

Thank you! For the last few months, I have been getting outrageous data overuse charges. I have broadband wireless and changed from 5 gigs to 10 gigs but I am still going over every month.

I thought it was too much watching of speeches and hearings (I don’t have a TV). At the Verizon Corporate Store in my neighborhood, they said your usage goes way up when you use Facebook.

I just did what you said and hope this money drain stops!


107 posted on 09/14/2015 7:58:49 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Steely Tom

I’m interested in upgrading but I’ve got a crappy DSL connection. If I allow the file “$Windows.~BT” to download can I copy it to a USB drive and use that file to upgrade another PC? Thanks.


108 posted on 10/24/2015 4:41:38 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a deatha panel)
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To: raybbr
I’m interested in upgrading but I’ve got a crappy DSL connection. If I allow the file “$Windows.~BT” to download can I copy it to a USB drive and use that file to upgrade another PC? Thanks.

I think that each computer's $Windows.~BT file is specific to it, built up over time by some app that MS has downloaded to that computer as an "update."

If that theory is correct, you cannot use the $Windows.~BT file from one computer to upgrade another.

You don't download $Windows.~BT from MS to your computer. You download an app that builds it as an update.

109 posted on 10/24/2015 7:15:53 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Steely Tom

Thanks for the info. Is there a way to pause the download in order to use my bandwidth for something else?


110 posted on 10/26/2015 2:41:44 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a deatha panel)
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