One has a different perspective when one sees the planting pattern.
Posted on 09/04/2015 2:21:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Moray is an agricultural terrace complex northwest of Cuzco, south of the Sacred Valley...
Temperature differences between the lower and higher levels are higher than you might think! The difference between the lowest and the highest levels can be up to 15 ºC (59 ºF). This is equal to the difference between sea level temperature and 1.000 m (2,380.8 ft) height level temperature.
The crater-like formations descend to a depth of approximately 150 m (492 ft). As a comparison, we could say that that's as deep as high a 50-story skyscraper is...
The name of Moray wither comes from maize harvest ("aymoray") or from the dehydrated potato (which is "moraya o moray"). Some affirm that the word can also have a connection with the month of May...
One can descend into the "craters" with the use of stair-like stones that were implanted into the edge of each level (into the side of the terrace ring). Although, the access of tourists might not be permitted...
Throughout the years many explorers have analyzed, studied the site and have come up with a variety of theories... John Earls said he has come across "vertical stones in terraces" that would have served to mark the limits of shadows at dusk during the equinoxes and the solstices...
The vast Inca Empire's different temperatures can be easily reproduced with this layered construction.
Moray could simulate about 20 such temperature categories found across the empire...
Do you know when Moray was discovered... 1932... By Shirppe Johnson's expedition with the help of an airplane. Interestingly, this happened 21 years after the discovery of the "Old Peak".
Sounds encouraging to those who are enthusiastic about hidden cities and forgotten Inca ruins.
(Excerpt) Read more at rediscovermachupicchu.com ...
One has a different perspective when one sees the planting pattern.
Hmm, they used llamas as pack animals, if memory serves. The presence of equids in the Americas prior to Columbus is (ahem) controversial. There used to be someone around here who argued that I must think the tribes were dumb to not realize they could ride horses which escaped from the Spanish — but that their tribal ancestors hadn’t, eating them all instead.
You done been an exceptionally evil person.
This thread and its pic reminded me of some terraces carved into nearly vertical rocky mountainsides by Hittites way back in the day. So, I went looking for the pictures just to see if there were any similarities.
Never found the pics. My google-fu wasn’t up to snuff. But!!!
I did wander into the Aegean Apocalypse and the following Greek Dark Age. The Sea People that ravaged the Med AO at that period.
Who were the Sea People? Who were the Pelasgii? Where did the Hittites come from? Why’d they pick such a barren place to settle? What the heck traumatized them so badly that they’d make their laws and culture harsh enough to make the Spartans seem like sissies? Where the heck did they go when they abandoned their capital (some 40k peoples?)
It’s now 5:45 AM and I just can’t stop inter-netting on these silly questions.
Never mind the rest, such as who were the Danaan Greeks? Where’d they come from? Are they related to the Tuatha de Danaan of Irish myth? Then there’s the Dorics. Same stuff. Where’d they come from? Herotodus seems to say that the Hellenes were were Pelasgii and the Dorics were Hellenes. Shouldn’t that be the other way around? Oh, and I found references to letters written back in this period that indicate that there were Greeks that believed they were Israelites that wandered off prior to the Isaelites migrating into Egypt.
And then back to who the heck were the Sea People? what role did the Sardinians play in all that?
I hate it when people do this to me. Trigger a solid manic that turns obsessive. It. Is. All. Your. Fault!!
Other than that, I’m having a lot of fun with this stuff. Too bad I don’t know enough to sort through the crap and find myself some nuggets that are reliable info.
>>And then back to who the heck were the Sea People?
An intriguing speculation results from reading Felice Vinci’s “The Baltic Origins of Homer’s Epic Poems”.
I’ve seen Llamas described as the goats of South America. Never thought of them as serious beasts of burden. When one considers the vast extent of agriculture evident around Cusco for example, what with the little a Llama can carry, the numbers required would probably have resulted in very little produce reaching the market...not to mention the effort required in creating the layered growth medium (drainage, compost, fertiliser?)
I’m thinking slaves maybe.
“... the Incas were magnificent engineers and agriculturists.
In places terraces were built up dangerously precipitous hillsides with massive inclined walls supporting a metre deep fill of stones for drainage and a metre of excellent soil, often brought in from elsewhere.
Clay was used for foundations to retain water and to encourage roots to decay so that the biological activity would keep the soil a few degrees warmer than the chilly mountain air all year round.
Incan terraces still occupy about a million hectares of land but three quarters of them are abandoned...
http://www.ipsnews.net/1997/05/peru-ancient-inca-irrigation-works-restored-to-raise-record-crops/
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The amount of physical labour required is simply astonishing
I see three specks and by golly I think they are people. Wow, that gives some perspective on how enormous these structures are.
When they said the craters were similar to open pit mines I remembered a visit to one of the world’s largest mines in Utah when I was a kid.
Looking down at the bottom a giant crane was working and it looked smaller than a toy. So I was looking for something to give the Peruvian craters some perspective.
What surprises me is that the Alien Astronaut guy hasn’t featured them on one of his shows. You have to wonder why they would move all that earth and rock? and the theory that they were just using it as a bio research location with different temperature zones is crazy IMO.
There are all sorts of theories about the Sea People. Obviously they were accomplished sailors who arrived on the Levant coast and Egypt as invaders so you’d look to the northern part of the Med.
So they could be sea-faring peoples from the Greek peninsula or islands. Might be forerunners of the Phoenicians.
Send a private email to Sunken Civ and he’ll give you links galore along with his educated opinion. He might even start a new thread to deepen your obsession. :-)
I have been to that Utah mine. It’s huge!
I went to it around 1952-53. It was huge then. If it is still open and working, it must be visible from Space by now.
IIRC they said it is visible from space when I took the tour.
Imo, this subject area is one of the more fascinating in history.
There was, apparently, so much going on and so little solid understanding.
Thanks for the suggest on Sunk. But, I’m already mooching too much from him just by enjoying all the links he provides the ping lists.
>>>>And then back to who the heck were the Sea People?
>>An intriguing speculation results from reading Felice >>Vinci’s “The Baltic Origins of Homer’s Epic Poems”.
I missed this earlier.
Thanks for the head’s up on the book.
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