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Thinking About the Unthinkable: An Israel-Iran Nuclear War
AmericanThinker ^ | August 23, 2015 | John Bosma

Posted on 09/04/2015 10:56:52 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4

...Israel needs to impart a powerful, disorganizing shock to the Iranian regime that accomplishes realistic military objectives: digging out its expensive underground enrichment plants, destroying its Arak plutonium reactor and maybe Bushehr in the bargain, killing its bomb and missile professionals, scientists and technicians, IRGC bases, its oil production sites, oil export terminals and the leaders of the regime where they can be found.

...its initial strike must move very fast and be conclusive within 1-2 hours, like the Israeli air attack opening the 1967 Six-Day War. The goal is to so stun the regime that Israel controls the first and subsequent phases of the war and its ending. This means that Israel must hit enough critical targets with maximum shock – and be willing to revisit or expand its targets – so as to control blowback and retaliation from Iran's allies. In essence, this involves a very fast-paced Israeli redesign of the Middle East in the course of a nuclear war for survival.

...what is poorly appreciated is that nuclear weapons from 10 to 300 kilotons (KT) – depending on accuracy – can destroy deep hard targets to 200+ meters depth by ground coupling if they penetrate merely 3 meters into the ground (Effects of Nuclear Earth Penetrators and Other Weapons: National Research Council / National Academy Press, 2005, pp. 30-51). Israel could lower bomb yields or achieve deeper target kills by its reported tests of two-plane nuclear attacks in which the first plane drops a conventional HTM like a GBU-28 to open up a channel; the second plane drops its tactical nuclear bomb into that 'soft' channel for greater depth before bursting. This unavoidably

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: arak; bushehr; iran; israel; jerusalem; lebanon; letshavejerusalem; waronterror
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Not that long of an article, but brings out some very interesting points in lieu of Russian S-300's making their way into the region..I look forward to other's comments surrounding Israel's (probable) response..
1 posted on 09/04/2015 10:56:52 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4
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To: Ghost of SVR4
Thinking About the Unthinkable: An Israel-Iran Nuclear War

Unthinkable? It's a foregone conclusion. Obama will go down in History as the stupidest leader ever. People will curse his name.

2 posted on 09/04/2015 11:01:52 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Ghost of SVR4

If that war occurs, we must fight against Israel under the Iran treaty. Republicrats sponsored legislation to change the clear treaty requirement of 2/3rds approval to a common statute whereby if the congress votes against this horror,obama gets to VETO that and then we the people must OVER RIDE the veto. Can you believe that? Do you understand what a flip that was? Do you care? It was CORKER/MCConnell!! They sponsored it !!!UCMTU


3 posted on 09/04/2015 11:03:29 AM PDT by WENDLE (How did Hillary get Top Secret docs out of the Dedicated Secure Network facility?)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Reading through the whole article, it argues very well why Israel might preemptively attack and go nuclear from the outset.


4 posted on 09/04/2015 11:04:07 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: WENDLE

Calm down noob, I know exactly what is going on. Read the whole article as to the why’s of Israel going nuclear.


5 posted on 09/04/2015 11:06:07 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
"Obama will go down in History as the stupidest leader ever. People will curse his name."

As Carter and Wilson breath a sigh of relief....

6 posted on 09/04/2015 11:06:19 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: DiogenesLamp
...... Obama will go down in History as the stupidest leader ever. People will curse his name.

I already do!
Everyday!

7 posted on 09/04/2015 11:08:28 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: DiogenesLamp

In 1967 there weren’t too many satellites feeding real time data to military’s. Maybe if Israel has a couple of subs with nukes on them they could inspire shock and awe very quickly.

Wipe out the Mullocracy and you end Iran’s nuclear ambitions. People seem to forget that in 2009 the election in Iran could have ended the mullahs with the rise of the green movement. All America had to do is send a few bucks and some communication equipment. Instead, Obama backed the mullahs.

Forget the infrastructure. Destroy the leadership and everything else will fall into place.


8 posted on 09/04/2015 11:10:13 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ( "Blessed be the Lord my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.")
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To: WENDLE

You’re SO right about this. I’ve stated that very thing before and got blasted here.

This deal WILL pit us AGAINST Israel if/ when such a war breaks out.

This is unthinkable to me.


9 posted on 09/04/2015 11:13:38 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: Ghost of SVR4
...its initial strike must move very fast and be conclusive within 1-2 hours, like the Israeli air attack opening the 1967 Six-Day War. The goal is to so stun the regime that Israel controls the first and subsequent phases of the war and its ending. This means that Israel must hit enough critical targets with maximum shock – and be willing to revisit or expand its targets – so as to control blowback and retaliation from Iran's allies. In essence, this involves a very fast-paced Israeli redesign of the Middle East in the course of a nuclear war for survival.

Idiot. The last was was an air war. This one will begin and end in about eight minutes.


10 posted on 09/04/2015 11:13:56 AM PDT by archy
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To: DiogenesLamp

It will be worse. Obama will order Israel to be nuked. We have to count on the already replaced-with-reliable Commanders second guessing him. America would be the perpetrator of the 2016 Holocaust. If there is some kind of coup in just a few days in DC then the nuclear genie may well be out of the bottle.Or perhaps Netanyahu will opt for a slow holocaust and not fire his guns.


11 posted on 09/04/2015 11:14:30 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

If this happens, it will be one of the fastest wars in history. I’d give it one day.


12 posted on 09/04/2015 11:15:06 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This space for rent.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4
...Israel needs to impart a powerful, disorganizing shock to the Iranian regime that accomplishes realistic military objectives: digging out its expensive underground enrichment plants, destroying its Arak plutonium reactor and maybe Bushehr in the bargain, killing its bomb and missile professionals, scientists and technicians, IRGC bases, its oil production sites, oil export terminals and the leaders of the regime where they can be found.

Seems to me that it's far too late now. If Israel was going to do this, it should have been done years ago. As it is, they'll face the usual international condemnation and more importantly, this time they will face US government opposition, since Obama has taken it on himself to remove Iran from it's international pariah status. If Israel isn't certain it can completely destroy Iran's nuclear capability, it will face immediate retaliation - possibly with a stray Iranian nuke - while the world and our government look on and do nothing, or cheer, like Gwen Ifill.
13 posted on 09/04/2015 11:15:21 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Ghost of SVR4
Reading through the whole article, it argues very well why Israel might preemptively attack and go nuclear from the outset.

I would be shocked if they didn't. The Iranians are fanatical nutjobs who do not hesitate to kill their own people, and who actually HATE Israel.

I would have explained to Stupid Shithead Obama that if he goes through with this, Israel will launch a Nuclear Strike against Iran, and Millions will die. Shithead Obama will go down in history as the Man who caused it.

I would also point out to him that it will be MUSLIMS who are going to die, Not Israelis.

14 posted on 09/04/2015 11:16:14 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Ghost of SVR4
Calm down noob, I know exactly what is going on. Read the whole article as to the why’s of Israel going nuclear.

Oh there's more.

15 posted on 09/04/2015 11:16:29 AM PDT by archy
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Forget the infrastructure. Destroy the leadership and everything else will fall into place.

Concur. Israel is nuts if they don't first strike those bastards with the intentions of cutting off the Snake's head.

And by the way Jimmy Carter, Thanks for F***ing up the world so much during your short time as Monkey Wrench in the Works.

16 posted on 09/04/2015 11:18:14 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Fiddlstix

lol


17 posted on 09/04/2015 11:18:49 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I was thinking more like hours (will probably be over -for Iran- before the news hits the wires). It will change everything in the middle east.


18 posted on 09/04/2015 11:19:05 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

I disagree with the findings—They must target cities as well as bomb making centers—They political structure must be aborted—The Holy City and Mullahs evaportated as well as the oil resources and military assets or they will re-build and strike back in one way or another. Iran must be made to realize they have been defeated. So many lives must be lost that they go beyond revenge to bending to the destruction. One side must win, one side lose. Is is Horrible? Yes. War is horrible. Its that or let hate win and Israel lost forever. Only by waiding in blood can the Jews win. That or the hope of Israel will be a footnote in history. Millions must die—Their should be a 2 hour first strike, followed by a more sever 2nd strike, 24 hours later, a 3rd strike 24 hours after that and a forth strike using conventional weapons. They must blow up the TV crews reporting on the Jewish Terror. Follow with a demand that Iran Surrender—and if they do not—a sixth strike harsher than the first. It will need 35 to 50 nukes. Sorry, but this is how you deal with barbarians.


19 posted on 09/04/2015 11:19:17 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: arthurus
It will be worse. Obama will order Israel to be nuked. We have to count on the already replaced-with-reliable Commanders second guessing him. America would be the perpetrator of the 2016 Holocaust. If there is some kind of coup in just a few days in DC then the nuclear genie may well be out of the bottle.Or perhaps Netanyahu will opt for a slow holocaust and not fire his guns.

More like, Wait till January 22 2017, when that stupid, lazy, ignorant but arrogant, bastard can't do any more damage to the world.

I have little doubt that Israel can't trust what the United States will do until scumbag is out of Office.

20 posted on 09/04/2015 11:21:12 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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