Posted on 08/21/2015 5:17:43 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
A Waukesha County judge has entered not guilty pleas on behalf of two teenagers charged in the Slender Man stabbing case.
Anissa Weier, 13, and Morgan Geyser, 13, appeared in court Friday morning for an arraignment hearing.
Weier and Geyser are charged as adults in the 2014 stabbing attack on a classmate at a sleepover party. The girls said they were trying to please a fictional horror character called
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They did it. Not Guilty is absurd. They ought to string the lawyer up too.
Pretty sure that the evidence will show that they are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Can’t wait to see what the defense throws out.
The two teenaged boys who recently killed their parents and several siblings in Broken Arrow, OK, also entered “Not Guilty” pleas. It’s what one does, apparently, even when there’s absolutely no question that the defendant(s) killed the deceased.
Insanity defense. That is what they will do. Teen girls. Boo hoo, waa, they had to be nuts, no sane person does this, more lawyer crap, ....
I think they were found competent to stand trial. Wouldn’t that preclude insanity?
If the Government ever accuses you of a crime, the Constitution guarantees you the right to a lawyer. You shouldn't begrudge that right to anyone else.
Besides which, it was the judge who entered the not guilty plea, not the girls' lawyers.
The not guilty plea is the usual plea for everything from running a stop sign to trying to stab your friend to death. The only thing surprising in this is they are being tried as adults at such a young age. Fine by me but the jury and judge may want to only see them as cute little confused girls who didn’t know what they were doing.
Wisconsin law allows minors to be tried as adults if their crime is serious enough to warrant it.....I believe that they have to be over 10.
No, for three reasons:
(1) It is the judge who decides competency to stand trial, and the jury which decides an insanity defense.
(2) Competency to stand trial is judged as of now, and insanity is judged as of the time of the crime.
(3) The law asks different questions for each issue: to be competent to stand trial, you have to understand that you are on trial for a crime and be able to communicate with your lawyer; to be sane enough to be found guilty, you have to have known what you were doing and have known that what you were doing is wrong. It is therefore possible for someone to be incompetent to stand trial and yet be legally "sane," and vice versa.
Both of those issues are very hard for a defendant to prove; many people who are absolutely batspit crazy are both legally sane and competent to stand trial. Jeffrey Dahmer, for example, was found both competent to stand trial and legally sane, but you are not going to convince me that he was psychologically normal.
You do an adult crime, you do an adult time.
No. That just means they are sane now to understand the trial and charges.
Semantically incorrect.
The judge asks the defense what their plea is to the charges.
The defense attorneys respond.
The judge then enters the plea into the court record.
Shyster lawyers entr not guilty pleas for obviously guilty clients.
Not always. Often the lawyer will not enter a plea at all, in which case the judge is required to enter a not guilty plea. From the article, that appears to be what happened here.
Shyster lawyers entr not guilty pleas for obviously guilty clients.
Obviously guilty? You know this how? You were there? The lawyer was?
I have never defended someone charged with murder, but I have defended people charged with criminal tax evasion. Some of them were "obviously guilty," but I pled them not guilty anyway, at least at the first appearance.
If you know they are obviously guilty and you plead not guilty, you are a liar, lying to the court, and wasting the courts time.
Thanks for the update on entering pleas. So if a lawyer stays silent the judge will automatically enter not guilty for them?
When they admit to doing it and the plaintiff says they did it, they are obviously guilty.
okay thanks.
Not at all. In our system, the defendant is presumed innocent, and has the right to put the prosecution to its burden of proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
Thanks for the update on entering pleas. So if a lawyer stays silent the judge will automatically enter not guilty for them?
Yes, that's the law everywhere in the U.S.
Not so...you are innocent until PROVEN guilty....you should admit nothing. It is up to the state to present enough evidence to convict you.....if they can....and usually do, fine...if not, the 5th amendment states that you do not have to testify against yourself.
the girls admitted they did it, the victim said they did it, overwhelmijng physical evidence confirms both sides, and their shyster lawyer still entered a not guilty plea. that is lying and wasting the courts time.
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