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'Gang mentality' of middle-age surfers keeps outsiders off Palos Verdes Estates waves
Los Angeles Times ^ | 7/16/15 | Garrett Therolf

Posted on 07/17/2015 8:08:33 AM PDT by originalbuckeye

Jose Lopez, a 38-year-old fisherman from Bell, stepped gingerly to the bluff's edge. He scanned the trail where, for years, beachgoers who don't live in Palos Verdes Estates have complained that they get bombarded with rocks thrown by a local surf tribe that calls themselves the Bay Boys. He noted that from the beach, 100 feet below, he would not be able to see the parking area, where outsiders' cars have been vandalized. A burly man, Lopez knitted his forehead and decided to drive away rather than head to the beach and start casting for perch. "Everyone knows how it can be here," he said. "How it can be" at Lunada Bay's well-shaped surf break has made news on and off for years. This summer, a video shot surreptitiously by the Guardian showed local surfers intimidating journalists as they prepare to paddle out. "People will just ... duke it out, ... work your car and get in fights," one voice says as a hidden camera rolls. The video has gone viral, bringing Lunada Bay's reputation for hostility to outsiders back into public focus. Perhaps most embarrassing to the leaders of this usually placid community of multimillion-dollar homes, stunning vistas and a $163,000 median income is that the journalists also recorded their effort to report the harassment. A dispatcher at the police station is caught on camera saying: "We know all of them. They are infamous around here." "They are pretty much grown men in little men's mind-set," she said. "They don't like anyone who isn't one of the Bay Boys surfing down there. It literally is like a game with kids on a schoolyard to them, and they don't want you playing on their swing set. It is what it is. If you feel uncomfortable, then don't do it."

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: palosverdes; surfers; surfnazis
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Surfers are really territorial. When my son was a young teenager, he was harassed while surfing at Zuma. He was just learning to surf and some of the older surfers would intentionally cut right in front of him. Surfers are not necessarily the laid back, mellow people that are portrayed in the movies. They can be really aggressive and dangerous. Public beaches are just that......for the PUBLIC!
1 posted on 07/17/2015 8:08:33 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: originalbuckeye

gang-like activities such as discussed here are among the reasons I feel no sadness when sharks dine on these guys.


2 posted on 07/17/2015 8:14:48 AM PDT by telstar12.5 (...always bring gunships to a gun fight...)
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It is what it is. If you feel uncomfortable, then don't do it

What a bold statement from the police dispatcher! It's odd how few police agencies have learned the Giuliani lesson: when you ignore small crimes big crimes follow.

3 posted on 07/17/2015 8:15:38 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Chum the waters when the gang is surfing...


4 posted on 07/17/2015 8:15:40 AM PDT by Moltke (The tagline that was here previously has suddenly disappeared)
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To: originalbuckeye

True, at a point. Another exaggerated story from the Slimes. I surf there for the past 7 years. Anyone see Point Break? Picture that. But the longer they see you, you are like buds’ with them. I have far worse fights with the libtard surfers at Santa Cruz.


5 posted on 07/17/2015 8:18:18 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Leaning Right

To turn about the movie phrase, “If you shoot them, they will leave.”


6 posted on 07/17/2015 8:18:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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7 posted on 07/17/2015 8:19:49 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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So, they now accept you at Lunada? Do you accept new people there, or are you (now that they accept you) allied with the thug surfers when a newby wants to try there? Having experienced the thug mentality of some of the surfers at Zuma, I would like to see bully surfers held to account.
8 posted on 07/17/2015 8:22:38 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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I live there, and it does happen. However, what the Slimes fails to report is how the outsiders trash the place when they come to fish/surf. The fisherman are the worst.


9 posted on 07/17/2015 8:26:10 AM PDT by SixIron (Golf and liberal thinking- life's great frustrations)
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I rarely surf at or near the Bu’ unless I’m with another local. Zuma especially. PV I just fit in. Maybe they were tired of yelling at me for the past 2 years. If you need a lesson in newbie surfer rules, it’s Ok to get into fights. BUT they’d better not know what you drive. ;) I’ve seen cars of newbies ended up at the bottom of cliffs.


10 posted on 07/17/2015 8:28:10 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Gaffer

Time to hire Jim Rockford...$200 a day plus expenses!


11 posted on 07/17/2015 8:30:28 AM PDT by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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Have to up the rate a bit due to the economy though. 200 bucks won’t go that far.


12 posted on 07/17/2015 8:33:12 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: max americana

You say it with a certain pride. It’s disgusting. Make one think of stainless and polymer pistol options. And yes,,, chum chum chum.


13 posted on 07/17/2015 8:34:21 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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Pushing cars over the cliffs to punish someone for surfing in ‘their spot’? That makes me sick. Bully surfers should be treated like the criminals that they are. Law enforcement should be ashamed of themselves. But I guess it does come from the top down. When the highest ranking law enforcement official in the land ignores Laws, why should the other enforcement people bother?


14 posted on 07/17/2015 8:37:10 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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You’re offended by surfer gangs? Seriously? Out of all the incendiary posts I’ve made from placing landmines at the borders and fudgepackers, this is the one that got you in a hissy fit?

And you believe the LA Slimes, one of the most liberal exaggerated piece of toilet of paper on the web? LOL


15 posted on 07/17/2015 8:39:28 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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One could tolerate them and let them become accustomed to intrusion on a repeated limited scale until they feel comfortable - solely to keep them from pushing your car off a cliff. That’s one approach or sure.

On the other hand if one of them got misted from long range they’d likely stop that childishness very quickly.


16 posted on 07/17/2015 8:44:26 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: originalbuckeye

I;ve seen it from Huntington 10 miles north. That;s why I never park close by. It’s worse if you ain’t white. First 3 years at Redondo, some asshole broke my board. So I broke his board in return in front of his GF. :)


17 posted on 07/17/2015 8:45:10 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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It’s like high school on Socal beaches. The mexicans treat me better in east LA than whiteboy surfers haha


18 posted on 07/17/2015 8:46:57 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: gr8eman

One of the greatest TV shows ever made.

I would love to see the incidental music released on disc. A lot of lesser ones got that.


19 posted on 07/17/2015 8:47:30 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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20 posted on 07/17/2015 8:49:18 AM PDT by dfwgator
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