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The Republicans had 10 Years to Stop Trump; now it's too late (vanity)
(self) | July 11, 2015 | BobL (self)

Posted on 07/11/2015 8:39:45 AM PDT by BobL

The only reason that Trump is leading the pack is because the Republican Party will not lift a finger to stop what is (correctly) perceived as a foreign invasion that is quickly transforming this country into a Third World Cesspool. This started at least a decade ago when Bush-43 began his Amnesty efforts and has not still not stopped.

The invasion is very convenient for those involved, as it has the potential to bring millions of new voters for the Democrats (as their brainwashed union-voters get old and die) and millions of new, low-wage and reliable workers to Republican business leaders.

It was the perfect combination for the leaders of both parties. But just one problem: The country did not want it! And not just Republicans, but Democrat voters too. So what did the parties do? The Democrats stuck with the transformation, figuring that political power was much more important than the security of the country (nothing at all new there). Republican leaders, even though they were looking down the barrel of being driven from power for decades, if not generations, still salivated over the fact that there was big money to be made from these new workers. Not only were they good, they helped drive-down wages for the entire low-end of the labor force, helping US businesses be competitive with foreign, low-wage countries.

Democrat voters, these days, while still not crazy about the country being transformed, seem willing to accept it as the price of driving the Republicans (or Christians, as they really see us) from power. But Republican voters have only gotten angrier and angrier. They see no benefit in a few rich fat-cats getting even richer, while they see their beloved country disintegrating right before their eyes. And since Republican voters generally have kids, they are scared to death for those kids and grandchildren, something that Democrat voters don't have to deal with (ok, a few Democrats may have made the 'mistake' of having kids, as they see it).

But even given that the Republican voter anger at Open Borders is boiling over, Republican leaders simply laughed at them, figuring that the only reason Republican voters were complaining was because of Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and other conservative media egging them on. So they ignored us...and ignored us...and ignored us, as we didn’t represent the real Republican base. Republican victories in 2010 and 2014 helped cement this view – how could we Republicans do so well if we weren’t addressing their concerns? I’ve always said that Republican leaders a lot dumber than Democrat leaders, and this is certainly one example – obviously the 2010 and 2014 Midterm votes were a anti-Democrat vote – Republicans would have voted for a horse if he was up against a Democrat in those years.

Which brings us to today. Rush's initial reaction to Trump was that he was snake oil salesman, given his history of playing both sides – he was rightly suspicious. But Republican voters are tired of waiting for the second coming of Reagan and will take anyone that has the willingness and the capability to address Open Borders. Trump fits that bill, clearly having the money to get his word out, over the media, and saying what we want to hear. My point here is that Republicans were ahead of Rush on Trump...their support for Trump has nothing at all to do with being "egged on" by Rush, Fox, Beck or anyone else. On this issue, at least, the support is real.

So now what? The initial reaction of the Republican leaders had first been to try to ignore Trump, but that was impossible because the Democrats and the media didn't go along with them - they seemed to think that Americans just love Open Borders, and so Trump was making a total fool of himself (and the party) - so they would amplify it. Huge mistake on their part. Also, with the Republican leaders (and almost all of our candidates) being totally transfixed by their multi-million dollar efforts to increase our share of the Hispanic vote from 27% in 2012 to 27.01% in 2016 - they were horrified by the thought of having someone out there publicly having a problem with Open Borders and the killings of Americans by Illegals, so they stepped up to the task of trying to destroy him. Needless to say, they instead stepped into it. Instead of crushing him, they amplified his message (as if that were needed) and helped drive him into the lead.

But not all of them stepped into it. Cruz, I suspect, quickly figured out that Trump (or at least what he represents) is not going away that easily, now that the genie is out of the bottle on this issue. If Trump is drummed out of the Republican Party, say in favor of Jeb being the candidate, then Trump runs as a Third Party candidate and virtually assures that Jeb loses in November (and there is a very good chance Trump could win in a three-way race). If Trump doesn't run Third Party against Bush, then someone else will - maybe Tom Tancredo, for example, because even proponents of serious border security have to be floored by just how important the issue is for voters - everything they've heard prior from their ‘advisers’ (most of them gay, by the way) kept saying that Americans have tantrums over the border, but quickly get over it - and that, for example, the issue of adjusting the formula for food stamp benefits in counties with a Native American population of between 7.28% and 12.65% of the total population is much more important to them and can be carried all the way to November. This border stuff...just a few blowhards on the radio, and that can't last.

So what happens now will be totally different from 2008, or 2012. If an Open Borders type is nominated (aka, Jeb) or someone that seems to take multiple sides of the issue (Romney, Walker), there will be a Third Party challenge - it may be Trump, it may be Buchanan, it may be Tancredo, but it will be someone and they will get a lot of votes, virtually assuring the defeat of the Republican. But if Cruz, Trump, or someone else trusted on border security runs as the Republican (although I can't think of any others), then it may well be a 2-person race, and the Republican candidate may well get a huge turnout from Republican voters and even a lot of crossover voters, as there are millions of Democrat types that would also like to see some sort border security.

This will be fun.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: amnesty; cruz; immigration; trump
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1 posted on 07/11/2015 8:39:45 AM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

God I am so hoping the GOP chokes on this and dies a painful death. Trump can bring forth the new party.


2 posted on 07/11/2015 8:43:35 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: BobL

Like McLame said in his commercial, “Build the danged fence.”

Republicans 10 years too late and no real interest in building that fence.


3 posted on 07/11/2015 8:44:07 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Din Maker; Iscool

Ping to you guys (and thanks) - just came up with this vanity.


4 posted on 07/11/2015 8:45:05 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: BobL

bump


5 posted on 07/11/2015 8:46:40 AM PDT by Pelham (Deo Vindice)
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To: BobL

It started with the 1965 Immigration Act. Legal immigration is a far bigger problem than illegal immigration.


6 posted on 07/11/2015 8:46:49 AM PDT by kabar
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To: BobL

Thank God someone has finally broken through the Ministry Of Propaganda filter so that American citizens have a voice as to the future of their country.

65-70% of the citizens have been screaming to get the border secured and the laws enforced.
They have been frustrated by one party that wants a new permanent majority and another that wants to keep flooding the country with cheap labor.

No one is representing the citizens.

Trump has moved into that vacuum


7 posted on 07/11/2015 8:46:50 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: BobL

I am sure that many voters of both parties in those states that are overrun with illegals would go to the polls to express their utter frustration with the invasion of our nation. You couldn’t even all it an invasion or you would be called a racist. THEY control the language that we can use.


8 posted on 07/11/2015 8:49:03 AM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: kabar

And if elected officials continue to refuse to enforce the law and deport the illegals now trespassing in the US then states like California will remain strongholds of the Left and colonies of the Third World.


9 posted on 07/11/2015 8:49:57 AM PDT by Pelham (Deo Vindice)
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To: BobL

But if Cruz, Trump, or someone else trusted on border security runs as the Republican (although I can’t think of any others), then it may well be a 2-person race, and the Republican candidate may well get a huge turnout from Republican voters and even a lot of crossover voters, as there are millions of Democrat types that would also like to see some sort border security.

Very true. Blue collar Democrats in the midwest are not keen on amnesty. We just don’t hear about them because they’re afraid of their party’s wrath on them if they speak out.


10 posted on 07/11/2015 8:50:07 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: boycott

“Like McLame said in his commercial, “Build the danged fence.””

Interesting, didn’t know it. Did the Illegal invasion simply end the day after the 2008, or, more likely, did McCain’s ‘need’ for a border fence end that day.

McCain was certainly still in the Senate after that election, and certainly had credibility to push the issue.

So, as I say, is it Trump’s fault that there is still no border fence?


11 posted on 07/11/2015 8:50:32 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: kabar

“It started with the 1965 Immigration Act. Legal immigration is a far bigger problem than illegal immigration.”

It’s both. Once we legalize and naturalize 30,000,000 Illegals, you’ll get a feel as to just how bad our Illegal problem is, also.


12 posted on 07/11/2015 8:51:50 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: BobL

Trumps current strength comes from GOPe Weakness.


13 posted on 07/11/2015 8:52:03 AM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: BobL

I wish Cruz was against expanding H-1B. Hoards coming by plane is no better than hoards walking across an unguarded border.


14 posted on 07/11/2015 8:52:34 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: BobL

Holy crap!

This article gets it.

Completely. Wow.


15 posted on 07/11/2015 8:53:24 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: BobL
There's two problems.

Problem one is that politicians haven't done their job. That creates a Trump opening. That's the smaller problem. The bigger problem is that the people who complain about it too often are fooled by big talk and don't pay attention to action (or inaction). That caused the problem in the first place. Talk is more important to the idiot voters than action. That's why we have all the talk about debates when they really mean jackcrap.

Trump is all talk. I won't vote for him for dogcatcher. I'd even rather have Jeb than Trump and there's not a chance I'd vote for him either.

I'll stick with proven records. I have good choices this time for once and I'm going to take advantage of it. Cruz or Walker. Probably Cruz.

16 posted on 07/11/2015 8:54:57 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Leaning towards Cruz or Walker in 2016. No Jeb. No Graham. No Trump.)
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To: BobL

BTTT


17 posted on 07/11/2015 8:56:06 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (If America Cared would a moslem cair?)
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To: Cheerio

Hasn’t Trump (the company) filed for bankruptcy before?


18 posted on 07/11/2015 8:56:56 AM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden - The Book of Souls, out Sept 4th, 2015)
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To: BobL
Don't focus on those 30 million illegal immigrants. If anything, this whole "amnesty" issue is a complete red herring. The evidence of this can be found in the aftermath of the last Federal "amnesty" legislation back in 1986. I was shocked to read an article a few months ago citing a statistic that only 25%-30% of the illegal immigrants covered by the 1986 amnesty law even bothered to go through the process of legalization/naturalization.

When you look at the issue now, I suspect even MORE of these illegal immigrants will look closely at what they're being offered and say: "No, thanks!" What is the upside of getting a Social Security number and finding yourself immersed in the bureaucratic morass of the Federal government?

By this time, even a Mexican with a third-grade education has probably figured out that the last free man in the United States of America will be some Spanish-speaking dude who crossed the border illegally, works for cash, and has no bank account or financial records to his name.

19 posted on 07/11/2015 8:58:14 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“Holy crap! This article gets it. Completely. Wow.”

I prefer it be called a “piece” rather than an “article”, but thanks anyway (LOL).


20 posted on 07/11/2015 8:58:17 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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