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Apple Watch 'collapsing sales' report actually shows Apple is crushing smartwatch sector
Apple Insider ^ | July 08, 2015 | Daniel Eran Dilger

Posted on 07/08/2015 8:21:16 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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1 posted on 07/08/2015 8:21:16 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; altair; ...
Slice data claiming that the Apple Watch is tanking doesn't mean anything, Slice doesn't measure any of the actual Apple Watch sales. . . Apple Insider's Daniel Dlinger's analysis shows just the opposite, that the Apple Watch is crushing the competition. — PING!


Apple Watch Sales are not "tanking"
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If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 07/08/2015 8:24:56 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Nobody wears a watch— I sure don’t. Bad guess on that Apple.


3 posted on 07/08/2015 8:30:15 PM PDT by WENDLE
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To: WENDLE

I see watches on folks all the time no pun intended


4 posted on 07/08/2015 8:48:46 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: WENDLE
Nobody wears a watch— I sure don’t. Bad guess on that Apple.

Your anecdotal not wearing of a watch does not pluralize into data.

Here is accurate data:
The watch market is an over $22 Billion a year market. There are over 1.2 Billion watches sold annually. China alone manufactured 633 million last year. . . many of the Chinese watches for selling less than an average retail price of $3 but can sell for as much as $5000. That's some "nobody." Sorry, you are just wrong.

Apple's pricing of the Apple Watch is spot on, too. The average Swiss watch sells for $759. . . twice what the entry level Apple Watch sells for, and even the entry level Stainless Steel Apple Watch is still under the price of the average retail Swiss Watch.

5 posted on 07/08/2015 8:50:32 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: WENDLE

marketers think only the high end Apple watch will do good, bought by rich boyfriends. the rest, not so much


6 posted on 07/08/2015 9:08:41 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: Swordmaker

I think thenidea is thatnonce celebrities will wear the high end gold apple watches, regular low information idiots will want them


7 posted on 07/08/2015 9:09:39 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: WENDLE

Funny, Apple is looking at selling $5B of them this year. That’s a quarter of the watch market total.


8 posted on 07/08/2015 9:09:40 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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To: WENDLE

“Nobody wears a watch— I sure don’t. Bad guess on that Apple.”
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Well, I’m not a “nobody” and I wear a watch (Apple Watch) as do MANY FReepers and millions of other non-nobodies.

By the way, welcome to Free Republic (July 4, 2015 signup date). We already have plenty of folks trolling Apple threads and probably don’t need more.


9 posted on 07/08/2015 9:17:06 PM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: Swordmaker

I’m very curious to see how this plays out. I like to say I have a smart watch...but the pocket watch version....being my phone.

I can see the logic though - if you’re going to buy a high end watch, might as well be an Apple watch. But I really do think the universe of watch wearers has two major sectors - The utilitarian ten dollar crowd, and the crowd that wears it as jewelry. And frankly, I don’t think the Apple watch or any smartwatch fits the bill as stylish jewelry.

And I wonder about upgrading...will follow on versions be different enough to entice a buyer into a second iwatch? Or will this be a one time flurry of sales for Apple.


10 posted on 07/08/2015 9:20:47 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: Swordmaker

Admittedly, I don’t get out that much but I haven’t actually noticed anyone wearing one yet.


11 posted on 07/08/2015 9:22:20 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Swordmaker

I want to be the first kid on my block to have a watch manufactured in prison/factories in China by children. I want to pay top dollar too, knowing that kid in China’s going to see .00001 percent of that premium price tag too.

All those kids want for Christmas at Foxconn is to wake up and not want to kill themselves during their 12 hour work day.

Apple - made by children the left doesn’t care about for people who advocate for the protection of children the left doesn’t care about in order to take away constitutional rights from US citizens.


12 posted on 07/08/2015 9:22:49 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: WENDLE

It’s not a watch! Surprise,


13 posted on 07/08/2015 9:43:45 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I Love Bull Markets!!!)
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To: House Atreides

I can’t tell you how many people I’ve met who say they are waiting for the next generation.


14 posted on 07/08/2015 9:46:24 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I Love Bull Markets!!!)
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To: RinaseaofDs
I want to be the first kid on my block to have a watch manufactured in prison/factories in China by children. I want to pay top dollar too, knowing that kid in China’s going to see .00001 percent of that premium price tag too.

All those kids want for Christmas at Foxconn is to wake up and not want to kill themselves during their 12 hour work day.

Apple - made by children the left doesn’t care about for people who advocate for the protection of children the left doesn’t care about in order to take away constitutional rights from US citizens.

Know any more lies and myths, RinaseaofDs?

There are no children working at FoxConn. The ages of the workers at FoxConn. . . The ages of the workers are from 18 to 32 years old. Nor were any workers on the Apple assembly lines among the 14 suicides out of 750,000 workers at FoxConn in 2010. . . a suicide rate far lower than the suicide rate among students of the same age cohort attending Ivy League Universities in the United States during the same period. In addition, the spate of six suicides at one FoxConn factory were all working on assembly lines manufacturing Microsoft Xboxes, Nokia phones, Sony PlayStations, and HP Computers.

The closest Apple assembly line was in another city 150 miles away.

The suicide rate at FoxConn is 0.25 per 100,000 workers per year. The suicide rate in the United States is 11 per 100,000 per year.

Lest you trot out the 200 workers who "threatened to commit mass suicide", that was a labor dispute ploy involving workers who were being moved from working on Microsoft Xboxes to assembling Asus laptop cases which had fewer opportunities for overtime. They were not happy about the lack of overtime. . . and were demanding more overtime opportunity like they had on the Xbox line.

Nor were they "prisons". . . workers on Apple assembly lines are paid up to seven times the Chinese minimum wage. When openings occur on the Apple assembly lines thousands of applicants line up for every single job opening. Workers can choose to live in the factory dormitories or in apartments they rent in the city. That is not the sign of a "prison".

Contrary to your ignorant claims, if underage workers (children) are found working at FoxConn, the company is required by Chinese Law to pay for a University Education for that worker until they are 25 years of age. That is something that no company wants to pay. . . so they do everything they can to avoid hiring underage workers. The facts are that there have been fewer than 20 underage workers found working among the 750,000 FoxConn employees and they were using faked IDs.

Apple has done far more in China to assure compliance with worker standards than any other US company, writing requirements for worker safety, higher pay, etc., into their contracts, and placing Apple paid monitors to assure compliance. No other company, not Microsoft, HP, Motorola, or any of the other manufacturers do anything similar except join associations that write and publish worker "standards". Try to learn something before you post propaganda.

By the way, a worker on a non-Apple assembly line earns the equivalent of about $599 a month. . . an experienced Apple assembly line worker can earn up to three times that amount. So much for your propaganda myths. Dormitory rent costs $50 a month and food an additional $30. Rents in the town are about double that. Chinese health care is free.

As an Economist, I can tell you their cost of living and their standard of living is now pretty much on a par with factory workers around the world. In fact, China is starting to lose business in some industries to lower cost labor in other countries INCLUDING the United States of America. Apple itself is manufacturing the Mac Pro in Austin, Texas, and assembling the iMac in Elk Grove, California. Again, so much for your myths.

Everything I have posted above is a FACT and can be proven and has been posted on FreeRepublic numerous times with links to the evidence and articles showing the data.

By-the-way, I know you've seen these facts before, so you know what you posted is false. That makes what you posted knowingly false, posted deliberately to mislead. Why do you do it?

15 posted on 07/08/2015 10:15:49 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: BunnySlippers

“...many people I’ve met who say they are waiting for the next generation.”
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There is always a “next generation” for Apple products, just as there is always a next wave coming in to an ocean beach. Folks can miss a lot of fun waiting for the better next wave. But I agree that many folks prefer to wait for the 2nd generation of new Apple products.

In our family I bought our first Apple Watch as a birthday gift for my wife. Next year I’ll get another one (i.e., the new model) which she will get and I will get her current one (which she is really happy with) as a hand-me-down. That’s the way things roll in our family.


16 posted on 07/08/2015 10:20:42 PM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: lavaroise
marketers think only the high end Apple watch will do good, bought by rich boyfriends. the rest, not so much

Which marketers are those? Currently the ones I have read claim that 70% of the Apple Watch sales are the Apple Watch Sport which sells for $349 - $399, a smattering of the Apple Watch Edition (the gold watch) and the rest, about 29%, the Stainless Steel Apple Watch, selling for $599 to $1099, with most of those being at the higher end with the metal bracelets. Ergo, your marketers are simply wrong.

17 posted on 07/08/2015 10:27:16 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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Funny, Apple is looking at selling $5B of them this year. That’s a quarter of the watch market total.

The likely hood is that Apple already has sold $5 Billion of them this year. According to the statistics the average selling price has been a little over $500. . . and Apple sold 2.3 million Apple watches in the first TEN MINUTES they were available on April 10th for pre-sales. . . and 3 million on the first day. Apple continued to sell pre-sell Apple Watches as fast as they could make them up until delivery started. . . and then until they could get enough to start selling them in retail stores on June 26th.

If we accept the admittedly flawed numbers from Slice, who claims Apple was selling 200,000 per day through April, May, and dropping off through June. . . 20 days in April, 31 in May, and 26 in June. . . 77 days times, call it ~125,000 average, is 9,625,000 Apple Watches at an average selling price of $500. That's $4.8125 Billion. . . before Apple opened them to sale in the retail stores and also to sale in ten more nations. (of course that's if we accept Slice's numbers claiming that Apple Watches are now "collapsing"! Of course, their collapsing was only at the last few days, as the Apple Watch got closer to being available in the Apple Stores. It's not even counting that first spate of sales on the first day!

There are a lot of problems with Slice's figures. . . starting with the fact that they have no access to Apple's sales numbers at all, and ending with the fact that they are based on a self-selected sample of people who don't give a damn about their privacy and choose to use Slice's app.

18 posted on 07/08/2015 10:52:40 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: House Atreides; Swordmaker; WENDLE
"We already have plenty of folks trolling Apple threads and probably don’t need more."

Why not? Like other liberals, they're fun to analyze, laugh at, and cuss. And they give folks here a good look at the insanity of the left's obsession with homosexuality -- and the idiocy of their trying to link that with the use of purely technical devices.

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Ask yourself, "Could I have even imagined that such ******-up heads actually exist?"... '-)

19 posted on 07/09/2015 6:47:12 AM PDT by TXnMA (The LEFT: against guns, except when they hold them -- pointed at us.)
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To: Swordmaker

WOOT!

Apple has cornered the market on crappy junk that no one wants that screams “i’m a sodomite” !

there’s always a bright side once the professional spinners get a hold of an issue!

lol


20 posted on 07/09/2015 10:29:14 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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