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To: RinaseaofDs
I want to be the first kid on my block to have a watch manufactured in prison/factories in China by children. I want to pay top dollar too, knowing that kid in China’s going to see .00001 percent of that premium price tag too.

All those kids want for Christmas at Foxconn is to wake up and not want to kill themselves during their 12 hour work day.

Apple - made by children the left doesn’t care about for people who advocate for the protection of children the left doesn’t care about in order to take away constitutional rights from US citizens.

Know any more lies and myths, RinaseaofDs?

There are no children working at FoxConn. The ages of the workers at FoxConn. . . The ages of the workers are from 18 to 32 years old. Nor were any workers on the Apple assembly lines among the 14 suicides out of 750,000 workers at FoxConn in 2010. . . a suicide rate far lower than the suicide rate among students of the same age cohort attending Ivy League Universities in the United States during the same period. In addition, the spate of six suicides at one FoxConn factory were all working on assembly lines manufacturing Microsoft Xboxes, Nokia phones, Sony PlayStations, and HP Computers.

The closest Apple assembly line was in another city 150 miles away.

The suicide rate at FoxConn is 0.25 per 100,000 workers per year. The suicide rate in the United States is 11 per 100,000 per year.

Lest you trot out the 200 workers who "threatened to commit mass suicide", that was a labor dispute ploy involving workers who were being moved from working on Microsoft Xboxes to assembling Asus laptop cases which had fewer opportunities for overtime. They were not happy about the lack of overtime. . . and were demanding more overtime opportunity like they had on the Xbox line.

Nor were they "prisons". . . workers on Apple assembly lines are paid up to seven times the Chinese minimum wage. When openings occur on the Apple assembly lines thousands of applicants line up for every single job opening. Workers can choose to live in the factory dormitories or in apartments they rent in the city. That is not the sign of a "prison".

Contrary to your ignorant claims, if underage workers (children) are found working at FoxConn, the company is required by Chinese Law to pay for a University Education for that worker until they are 25 years of age. That is something that no company wants to pay. . . so they do everything they can to avoid hiring underage workers. The facts are that there have been fewer than 20 underage workers found working among the 750,000 FoxConn employees and they were using faked IDs.

Apple has done far more in China to assure compliance with worker standards than any other US company, writing requirements for worker safety, higher pay, etc., into their contracts, and placing Apple paid monitors to assure compliance. No other company, not Microsoft, HP, Motorola, or any of the other manufacturers do anything similar except join associations that write and publish worker "standards". Try to learn something before you post propaganda.

By the way, a worker on a non-Apple assembly line earns the equivalent of about $599 a month. . . an experienced Apple assembly line worker can earn up to three times that amount. So much for your propaganda myths. Dormitory rent costs $50 a month and food an additional $30. Rents in the town are about double that. Chinese health care is free.

As an Economist, I can tell you their cost of living and their standard of living is now pretty much on a par with factory workers around the world. In fact, China is starting to lose business in some industries to lower cost labor in other countries INCLUDING the United States of America. Apple itself is manufacturing the Mac Pro in Austin, Texas, and assembling the iMac in Elk Grove, California. Again, so much for your myths.

Everything I have posted above is a FACT and can be proven and has been posted on FreeRepublic numerous times with links to the evidence and articles showing the data.

By-the-way, I know you've seen these facts before, so you know what you posted is false. That makes what you posted knowingly false, posted deliberately to mislead. Why do you do it?

15 posted on 07/08/2015 10:15:49 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

The claims and counter-claims

Apple claims: We limit work weeks to 60 hours.
CLW claims: Most production workers did 66-69 hours at Pegatron.

Apple claims: All overtime must be voluntary.
CLW claims: All three Pegatron factories demand overtime.

Apple claims: We don’t tolerate underage labour. Juveniles must be given special treatment.
CLW claims: Many under-18s worked the same long hours and same conditions as adults.

Apple claims: Managers are trained on anti-harrassment and worker protection.
CLW claims: Supervisors harassed and abused workers by swearing at them and threatening collective punishment.

Apple claims: Suppliers must provide proper protective gear and up-to-date training.
CLW claims: Training was minimal; many workers did not wear masks despite dealing with dangerous chemicals.

Apple claims: We do not tolerate environmental violations.
CLW claims: Industrial wastewater was poured directly into the sewage system.

CLW’s report can be read in full here and Apple’s response here

CLW is Child Labor Watch. They are based in China, work with child labor reform advocates in the US.

Your iPhone was made by child labor, in factories that pour industrial waste down the drain.

Enjoy.


23 posted on 07/12/2015 12:17:37 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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