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What This Cruel War Was Over: The meaning of the Confederate flag is best discerned [tr]
The Atlantic ^ | June 22, 2015 | Ta-Nehisi Coates

Posted on 06/23/2015 6:33:55 AM PDT by C19fan

This afternoon, in announcing her support for removing the Confederate flag from the capitol grounds, South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley asserted that killer Dylann Roof had a “a sick and twisted view of the flag” which did not reflect “the people in our state who respect and in many ways revere it.” If the governor meant that very few of the flag’s supporters believe in mass murder, she is surely right. But on the question of whose view of the Confederate Flag is more twisted, she is almost certainly wrong.

Roof’s belief that black life had no purpose beyond subjugation is “sick and twisted” in the exact same manner as the beliefs of those who created the Confederate flag were “sick and twisted.” The Confederate flag is directly tied to the Confederate cause, and the Confederate cause was white supremacy. This claim is not the result of revisionism. It does not require reading between the lines. It is the plain meaning of the words of those who bore the Confederate flag across history. These words must never be forgotten. Over the next few months the word “heritage” will be repeatedly invoked. It would be derelict to not examine the exact contents of that heritage.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civil; confederate; war
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To: cripplecreek

Has The Atlantic always blocked comments on ol’ Ta-Nehisi’s screeds, or is this something new?

Their idea, or his?


21 posted on 06/23/2015 8:33:12 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: C19fan
The attempts to remove the Confederate flag from public facilities have been ongoing for several decades. Liberals are following the observation of Rahm Emmanuel, who said never let a crisis go to waste, so they are using the murders apparently committed by Dylann Roof, a drug addict, an anti-Christian and anti-American, to further their cause. Removal of signs of the past is standard operating procedures for revolutionists, from the days of Robespierre and Murat to those of Lenin and Stalin to the current time.

Were the Confederate leaders committed to a noble cause? Yes, with respect to preserving state sovereignty; no with respect to preserving human bondage. They were flawed, but so were Lincoln, Andrew Johnson, Sherman, Grant, etc. So were the Founders, though arguably less so than the Civil War leaders. So were later generations. Eisenhower, perhaps the most successful military leader America ever produced, made errors, such as restraining General Patton from taking western Czechoslovakia and Eastern Germany and acceding to Operation Keelhaul. MacArthur made some bad tactical decisions in World War II and Korea and was insubordinate to Truman to boot.

At this time, there are no active moves to remove the memorials to the Founders, the Northern leaders of the Civil War, or other past leaders. Make no mistake; their time is coming. Already there is talk of removing Hamilton or Jackson from U.S. currency and replacing either or both with some feminist battle-ax. The goal of the Left is to reshape American society into a dystopia that is a cross between 1984, Brave New World, and Idiocracy.

We may lose, but there must be no surrender, no compromise.

22 posted on 06/23/2015 8:33:46 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: C19fan

As the government started sticking its nose into our tents and lives the use of the Confederate Battle Flag was simply used as a popularized emblem of defiance and protest. To many that display it that was never considered to be because one supported racism although some displaying it do. But those that do so also probably would deny supporting slavery of people of any form including people with black skin.

Use of it as a choice symbol of protest though, runs the risk of a viewer comming to that conclusion. But it should be pointed out that blacks also fought and died on the side of the Confederacy . In the view of the southerners while that greatest loss of life as a result of that conflict. It was not just about the abolition of slavery as it is currently being poltically correctly explained and used. And any move to ban its use should be considered a violation of the Constitutional free speech amendments


23 posted on 06/23/2015 8:36:16 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Some of my best rebuttals are in FR's along with meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: mosesdapoet

All this garbage is directed at dimrat voters and people dependent on the party. They were poorly educated and have no knowledge of our country’s history.


24 posted on 06/23/2015 8:46:50 AM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is the CPUSA)
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To: cripplecreek
The next cause will be the changing of the slave state names, north and south. After all, wouldn't they be just as offensive as the battle flag of some of those states?

Believe me, it will not stop with the flag.

25 posted on 06/23/2015 10:48:50 AM PDT by Know et al (Keep on Freepin'!!!)
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