Posted on 06/16/2015 4:40:51 AM PDT by don-o
Kenneth Carlisle is among the 30 San Antonio area men arrested in connection with the Waco biker shootout.
Since that shootout, Lindsay Carlisle has been fighting to prove her husband wasn't involved.
"This is has been beyond difficult. The worst nightmare of my entire life."
Lindsay Carlisle is trying to hold it together for her family. She's paying all of the bills, while her husband Kenneth sits in the McClennan County Jail on a one million dollar bond.
"What happened to be innocent until proven guilty? In this case that's not what's happening."
It's been just more than a week since the biker brawl and shootout at Twin Peaks in Waco.
9-people died, 18-were injured, and 170-people were arrested; including Kenneth Carlisle.
Lindsay says he drove her car and had just arrived.
She says he never made it past the parking lot.
"He wasn't wearing any vests, no colors, no bike, was in a vehicle and was in the wrong place, wrong time."
(Excerpt) Read more at foxsanantonio.com ...
Yep -- and they were all wearing badges!
They are liars, cheats ,and from championing abortion, accessories to murder. When thy speak, they speak a lie because they are incapable of the truth.
I can’t load the article for some reason so I have some questions. I don’t know
if they are answered in the article or no. Do you have any info?
1. What was Lindsay Carlisle’s purpose in being in waco that day?
2. Was he going to the biker meeting or was he passing through towards
another destination and stopped for personal reasons?
Lindsay is Kenneth’s wife. Kenneth drove her car to Twin Peaks. It is not specified as to whether he planned to attend the meeting or was there by coincidence.
My strong suspicion is that he was there to attend the meeting.
Sport ... I know it's easy to get discourated and in fact this Waco thing has me more than discouraged -- it has me sadly accepting that America is now officially in its last days -- people like naps are the ones I'm really worried about. I am confident that Democrats cheat because in real numbers, they are the minority. It was a balance of pretend, imaginary voters that "elected" Obama -- most Americans think Obama stinks, and reader comments at the majority of MSM news sites confirms it in spades, by a margin of about two to one.
HOWEVER, that so many otherwise stalwart patriot FReepers who've been here for years are still laboring under the illusion of Waco "cops versus bad-ass bikers" that had me fooled as well for the first two weeks, when I thought EXACTLY that this was a matter of criminal bikers getting what they deserved and the cops deserve metals -- that is what I believed for TWO WEEKS -- that so many FReepers are STILL buying it, is WAY more worrisome, to me.
Naps, you should know better -- you have ZERO excuse, and you are responsible all by yourself for allowing yourself to be duped when it is SO EASY to simply do your own due diligence, find the facts for yourself, and realize that YOU HAVE BEEN TOOK. That's what I did -- I admit I was as took as took could be for two weeks.
Naps and all the rest of you regular FReepers I pinged who are still being fooled, these supposed hard-core bikers threw-down and started shooting in full view of SIX MARKED COP CARS. If you do your own due diligence, you will absolutely learn that that is the narrative. And if you swallow that -- then you are a sitting duck to be used, robbed, cheated, and ENSLAVED, and you are HELPING your slavemasters.
TWO THIRDS of the people arrested and held on million-dollar bail lacked criminal records. That is a fact and it is not in dispute.
SIX MARKED COP CARS were plainly visible when these bikers supposedly opened up on each other in a "rumble" over a territory dispute in broad daylight in a public restaurant in the middle of a busy dining/shopping district. That is according to the official police department press release.
AT LEAST 16 UNIFORMED COPS were on the scene before the shooting even started -- again, according to the official police press release (see below).
And you claim that since nobody really knows what happened, it's better not to take up arms for either side.
Look at yourself, please. Be responsible for your own willingness to be manipulated and used.
Keep on kidding yourself -- right into slavery.
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OFFICIAL Waco PD statement:
The "Twin Peaks" incident has resulted in an investigation that is unprecedented in the history of the Waco Police Department and McLennan County. Since the initial event, the investigation is a large and complex investigation, involving many entities. It is our intent to release regular updates, but the pace of developments is often beyond our control. We also do not want to release any information that would jeopardize the ongoing criminal investigation. We appreciate the outpouring of community support that we have received during the past weeks and we will continue to serve our community as we investigate this case.
The following is our most current update from the Twin Peaks Shooting Investigation that occurred on 5-17-15:
The number of officers initially assigned to the Twin Peaks event on 5-17-15 are as follows: There were 16 uniformed Waco Police Department Officers to include 5 Supervisors (3 Sergeants, 1 Commander and an Assistant Chief). Included in that number was a Tactical Element (SWAT Officers) assigned and present. None of the Officers were assigned in a sniper capacity and all Officers were in their vehicles at the time the suspects began the shooting. Those Officers were stationed in the parking lots adjacent to the Twin Peaks and were visible to patrons entering the Twin Peaks parking lot. There were 6 marked Waco Police units and 4 unmarked Waco Police vehicles. This does not include DPS vehicles. There were also Texas Department of Public Safety Officers assigned to the event as well.
As of this release, there are a total of 44 shell casings recovered from the Twin Peaks scene. This number does not include the revolver rounds fired by non-law enforcement shooters. Those casings are still being counted. 12 of those casings were from the rifles of 3 Waco Officers who discharged their weapons in defense of their selves or a third party. The Waco SWAT Officers’ weapons are .223 caliber rifles that are capable of full-auto fire; Officers only fired in semi-auto mode during the incident. There was no full-auto gunfire from any of the Officers at the scene. As is normal practice, rifles carried by the Waco SWAT Officers were deployed with sound suppressors. No other Officers fired rounds from any other weapon during the incident. The Officers involved in the shooting have been assigned administrative duties pending the outcome of the investigation.
The number of weapons discovered during our search of the crime scene has increased since the first release and may continue to increase. The weapon count at this point in time is at least 475 weapons. This includes 151 firearms, 12 of which were long guns. The weapons recovered include: knives, brass knuckles, batons, tomahawks, weighted weapons, a hatchet, stun guns, bats, clubs, a machete, a pipe, an ax, pepper spray, and a chain. Many of these were hastily hidden and some were found using metal detectors as they were buried beneath the grass in the dirt. The involved firearms have been transferred to the ATF for analysis. Videos of the incident have been transferred to FBI Investigators for analysis. Full autopsy and ballistics analysis is being conducted by outside labs and the completed and final results have not been returned to us as of this release.
The special organizational structure of the Twin Peaks Investigation as it continues is this. There is a Commander assigned over the two Criminal Investigation Units (Special Crimes and SAFE-Support, Abatement, Forfeiture and Enforcement) investigating the cases that have developed from the shootings. There have been 4 additional Officers assigned to Special Crimes and 5 additional Officers assigned to SAFE to assist in the workload. This is in addition to the Detectives permanently assigned to those units. There are a total of 21 Officers and Supervisors assigned to the Twin Peaks Investigation.
Besides the addition of these Officers, we continue to receive support and investigation assistance from the following agencies; Texas Department of Public Safety including their Criminal Investigation Division and the Texas Rangers, Federal Bureau of Investigation-FBI, Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms-ATF, Texas Alcohol Beverage Commission- TABC and the McLennan County District Attorney office.
We initially impounded 130 motorcycles and 91 other vehicles. As of June 10, 2015, 52 motorcycles and 47 vehicles have been released to the owners. In addition to those, 12 of the motorcycles and 3 of the other vehicles were released to the lien holders due to repossession.
At this point, we have recovered over 1000 pieces of evidence from the crime scene, the Convention Center (where suspects were initially detained) and the jail. Search warrants are still being issued in this case in reference to some of the property held as evidence.
There were 239 persons detained at the crime scene as result of the Twin Peaks shootings. At least 62 individuals were released from the crime scene or from the Convention Center without charges being filed. 177 persons were arrested that night or subsequently on warrants obtained by Detectives.
:^)
Or are you aware of the kind of meeting it actually was, promoted with regular flyers and open not just to certain clubs but to Independents, as well, a scheduled repeating event (to discuss legislation in the state affecting motorcycling), and that it was only one of many such regular events that had been going on for decades?
Excellent observation.
One may lay out the most scrumptious banquet and invite guests, but you can not chew their food for them.
How very odd that this guy just forgot to mention that there were SIX MARKED POLICE CARS IN PLAIN VIEW (the official Waco PD said so in a press release posted on its facebook page nearly four weeks later) before and while this was happening. Imagine that!
Yep. But you can sure chide and ridicule them for being so stupid as to swallow garbage whole!
Talk about far-fetched.
I want to believe all cops are honest and that two plus two equals five -- I'd be a lot richer.
Speaking for myself, it isn't what I want to believe -- it's what I HAVE to believe if I'm honest with myself and do my own due diligence.
Since you have sought and procssed such a very tiny quantity of the reliable information, your focus is pretty much worth spit.
Of course, don’t forget the money quote from the article, “The biker’s story could not be independently verified.”
If that is how you limit your perusal of information on any given issue, you should stick with gardening and watching movies.
THIS is reliable and not in dispute: TWO THIRDS of the "criminals" arrested didn't even have a criminal records.
THIS is reliable and not in dispute: NINE CIVILIANS were shot and killed that day -- not cops, not soldiers, not fugitives, but CIVILIANS.
THIS is reliable and not in dispute: THIS MEETING had been way publicized in advance, it was a regularly scheduled event, open to motorcycle clubs and "independents" to discuss things like legislation affecting motorcycle riding, and its like had been ongoing for some 20 years.
You can keep ignoring this stuff by pretending that it's not "reliable." But you are only fooling yourself.
Gee, imagine that! {^)
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