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To: dp0622; Morgana; Pelham; CatherineofAragon; Travis McGee; onyx; mrsmel; chasio649; Fledermaus; ...

ok

Your post is well intended and thoughtful but seeing as how I grew up in black environs before they got power and while the Great Society was taking off let me spout for you

All Wilcow level truth

1) black culture was always more problematic than whites just like now with errant daddies and crime and exploitative leaders etc and more illegitimacy etc even before Welfare State circa 1970

2) black out of wedlock rate was around 25% in 1960 and now runs about three times that

3) my segregationist ancestry saw the dysfunctionality of black culture from jump street and grew to fear black rule given they often lived in majority black areas but of course they limited black political power to keep their influence limited but not because they hated them but because they feared them and feared pretty much what has happened since all that unfairness melted away.....the proof is in the pudding ....what they feared from 1866 on is now here....and it’s ugly....I know ...I’m living it

4) but the real kicker is forget blacks and all that problematic guilt and dissolution of families and coarseness and preponderance to violence in communities where the mean IQ is around 80.....and daddies are rare as hens teeth....the real damage from the 1960s is to whites proportionately.....in 1960 white illegitimacy was around 1%....today it’s 20-25 times that

5) so who’s fallen furthest?

6) this notion that it’s just democrat policies to explain why black communities have issues neglects to take in account rich white democrat locales that generally speaking function....the problem is culture lag and our refusal to see it for what it is in order to stop making naive attempts to ignore the obvious and pissing away cash trying to fix what cash won’t fix

This is a worldewide civilization trajectory issue we refuse to accept the realities of.....God may love us all alike but we are not all alike in capability.....not by a long shot

Even young Christian conservatives like I have in my own extended family would rather lose toes to frostbite than acknowledge that all peoples and their cultures haven’t progressed on civilizations timeline at the same velocity and nor will good intentions set it all equal results wise

Failure to understand this killed America that I grew up in more than any single mistake.....it has contributed to everything from resistance to name the enemy in the Islamist war to our open borders for brown people

And has forever changed the sociological landscape of the United States very very quickly

And it’s not coming back

Our under 40s are totally brainwashed on this....it is the only reality they know


5 posted on 06/15/2015 11:22:24 PM PDT by wardaddy (Game of Thrones ciao.......)
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To: wardaddy

“And has forever changed the sociological landscape of the United States very very quickly

And it’s not coming back”

And that is the bleakest truth of all.


6 posted on 06/15/2015 11:26:23 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: wardaddy

Our under forties are a disaster. Especially when it comes to voting. They begrudge their parents wealth, but use it, and feel for the plight of the black man, whom they have never lived around. spoiled, a little lazy, and lost.
I drove a cab in black neighborhood. 50 men standing in front of bodega bragging about their prison stints, 15 year old mothers, drug dealers, robbed a number of times, and on and on.
But at least before Johnson, the 75 percent marriage rate for having kids was good. geez.


8 posted on 06/15/2015 11:30:26 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: wardaddy
-- This is a worldewide civilization trajectory issue we refuse to accept the realities of ... --

Western civ issue, but yeah, the trajectory has been set by the liberals. James Burnham saw this, see "Suicide of the West" from the early 1960's. I'll wager that others saw this before he did.

And you are correct, few people see or accept the reality. The specific reasons are varied, but all smack of secular humanism.

15 posted on 06/16/2015 3:24:04 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: wardaddy

The left promotes this cultural rape because they hate Christianity so much.


21 posted on 06/16/2015 9:08:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: wardaddy

EXCELLENT post.


28 posted on 06/16/2015 10:08:19 PM PDT by beaversmom
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