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To: Swordmaker

>>Try to be an ACCURATE and truthful curmudgeon, that’s all I ask, Freedumb2003.<<

i have been pretty accurate. In he long view, ALL logical fallacies are non sequiteuers — “it does not follow that.”

I made a good argument that “large bodies of people purchasing” is an appeal to authority — the authority of the masses. Your dismissal of that out of hand does not make your analysis correct — it just makes it yours.

But what interests me is that so much energy was expended on a side road, to say “well if FD didn’t use the correct logical fallacy, the rest of his thesis must also be wrong” — you are hoisted on your own logical fallacy as “it does not follow that.”

My thesis stands — since the iPhone (not iPad as incorrectly posted but I grant stands along the iPhone as one of the last innovations of Apple), apple is a “johnny come lately — copying and slightly improving innovations made by others.

They are really good tinkerers. Call it damning with faint praise if you wish, but that is the truth of the matter. The i-6 series is a slightly prettier version of the Galaxy 5 (and Android followed suit by making a prettier version of the i-6), the iWatch is a somewhat better version of the old Android watch etc. etc.

They tinker, the other guys tinker — nothing innovative, just — cute.


89 posted on 04/27/2015 9:27:03 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Cruznial is a mental disorder that effects the brain of liberals where they deny he is" electable.")
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To: freedumb2003; Star Traveler; dayglored; amigatec; Loud Mime
They tinker, the other guys tinker — nothing innovative, just — cute.

I tutored in philosophy and logic in college, so don't try to lecture me about "all logical fallacies are non-sequiturs." What you were mistaking for an Appeal to Authority is the Appeal to Popularity. Not the same. It was once the popular opinion that the Earth was flat. That did not make it true. An Appeal to Authority is "But Columbus says the Earth is Round!" but Columbus never circumnavigate the globe. He was actually mistaken because he never got to the Orient, the East, which is what he claimed he could do by sailing West. So Appealing to the Authority of Columbus as an Authority, which indeed he was as a navigator, was a fallacy, because, in this case, he truly was not, because he really did not know.

These types of fallacies are all basically irrelevancies.

Star Traveler may have been partaking of the Band Wagon Fallacy. . . that just because a lot of people are joining in, and liking it, therefore it is true and you should believe it, too. It may or may not be true, but it is still a logical fallacy.

I don't think you would know what innovative was if it bit you on the ass.

And you said "iPod" not "iPad.

90 posted on 04/27/2015 10:14:45 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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