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Fast Casual Restaurants - Better burgers, choicer chicken
The Economist ^ | January 10, 2015

Posted on 03/08/2015 11:14:38 AM PDT by SamAdams76

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To: gusopol3
The best: fast, fresh, clean, friendly Christian owned:

'Animal style', for me!
21 posted on 03/08/2015 11:56:29 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village (and an AK 47 to defend it).)
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To: discostu
...it’s the International House of Pancakes not the international house of whatever she ordered.

In my defense, there was alcohol involved. I special ordered a burger with a fried egg, cheese, and a slice of ham on it. As hard as it is to believe, it was tasteless. I could understand greasy, overcooked, undercooked -- but not tasteless. One other place I like is Freddy's Steakburgers. Shoestring fries, and Steak-um's-on-a-bun. Violates my "see the food preparation area" rule, but, like Chick-fil-A, seems to employ respectable people.
22 posted on 03/08/2015 12:00:31 PM PDT by jjsheridan5 (The next Ronald Reagan will not be a Republican, but rather a former Republican)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Whenever you have a problem at Panera, email the "contact us" address on their homepage. Before you do that, get a courtesy card. The card is free, and has some pretty good enticements.

They do listen to consumers, and seem to want to know if there are any concerns about both their restaurants and the ones they franchise.

23 posted on 03/08/2015 12:03:23 PM PDT by grania
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To: grania

Are people in cities really as into eating out casually/fast as this article implies? It wasn’t that way when I lived in the burbs 10 years ago...

The only chain restaurant within 20 miles here is a DQ-but a 25 mile drive down the FM and the highway to the nearest real town-6000 people-has a (gag!) McDonalds and a Jack in the Box-and a Chili’s next to Home Depot. I don’t eat processed stuff, and so I have eaten at none of the above.

The butcher shop and small market 16 miles away has local grass fed, free range meats and fresh-today veggies and fruit from Texas and northern Mexico to cook and serve at home-you save money and eat what you want. I don’t trust a chain restaurant’s idea of “fresh” or “organic”...

But if you want to go out to eat, there are locally owned restaurants as close as 7 miles-they are sit down, with good, fresh menu items and personalized service. They cost a good deal less than Chili’s, etc even with a tip-and the food is fresh.


24 posted on 03/08/2015 12:05:51 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: SamAdams76

Panda Express... REALLY!?!?!? That qualifies as food?


25 posted on 03/08/2015 12:13:24 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: CARTOUCHE

Who said anything about organic or better for you? Not me, you keep obsessing on that, I’m simply pointing out that the product does indeed clearly taste better than the normal fast food competition.

If somebody here is deceived it’s you. You’ve deceived yourself about why people eat at these places. Most of them say absolutely NOTHING about organic. The big claim to fame most of them have is a lack of freezers and a shorter supply chain with more local control to the franchise holders. This results in fresher ingredients, selected to please local clients.

If you’re going to be saddened at anything be saddened by you. Because you’re the only one making those arguments you think are so dumb. Nobody else here has mentioned organic, or cancer, or any of that other stuff. It’s all strawmen from you, so if you think those arguments are sad, stop making them. Meanwhile, we’re going to our fast casual places and enjoying them.


26 posted on 03/08/2015 12:16:12 PM PDT by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: Texan5
Yes...it generally happens that way... A new trend might start in a larger city and slowly spread out from there.

'People' with 'money', often drive the demand and taste of certain things. From there it spreads.

I only got McD's for coffee. Places like that are dinosaurs in terms of service and quality. They are trying to change their methods with their new 'chicken' and other products.

27 posted on 03/08/2015 12:17:19 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: CARTOUCHE
Sorry but it is not "girly" to prefer grass-fed beef. Real men know what's good for them and don't worry about what others will think.

Not that I'll turn my nose up at grain-fed beef if I'm at a backyard barbecue or at a restaurant that has no other option, but given a choice, I'll go with the grass-fed. It's much tastier and better for you.

28 posted on 03/08/2015 12:17:37 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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Within about 100 yards from where I live there is this Chicken place. I’ve lived here for nearly 7 years and not until recently have I been there. It’s a free standing location and from all appearances, it’s a dump.

The only thing was, it is ALWAYS PACKED and the smell of rotisserie “A la brasa” Chicken filled the air.

I recently broke down and thought I’d give it a try.

The Best Chicken I’ve ever had.

I don’t think there has ever been a time that I didn’t have to wait five deep in line just to order.

For $10 I get a half chicken with rice and a small salad and can easily make two meals out of it, if it weren’t soo good.


29 posted on 03/08/2015 12:18:55 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: gusopol3

I agree with you but the French fries, which really are made fresh, are the best.


30 posted on 03/08/2015 12:20:01 PM PDT by jocon307 (Tell it like it is.)
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To: Texan5
Where I am is very close to a very large concentration of office jobs just south of Cleveland. A lot of the restaurant fare is workers getting lunch, ranging from fast food to a franchised sit down lunch. The only individuality isn't real impressive or homestyle.

I miss central MA with all the excellent restaurants with some flair. <^..^>

31 posted on 03/08/2015 12:20:51 PM PDT by grania
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To: SamAdams76

Another good one is Bobby Flay’s Bobby’s Burger Palace. Very clean, fast service, good burgers and shakes. Skip the fries, get the onion rings!


32 posted on 03/08/2015 12:24:39 PM PDT by jocon307 (Tell it like it is.)
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To: discostu

Oh well, on to the next trainwreck.


33 posted on 03/08/2015 12:27:50 PM PDT by CARTOUCHE (Professionally trained and licensed BS detector. References on demand.)
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To: SamAdams76

Panera is okay, but the menu signs aren’t visible from the point of sale so if you don’t know exactly what you want, you’re doing a lot of back and forth “side-stepping” to the consternation of folks behind you.


34 posted on 03/08/2015 12:31:38 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Organic Panic
Panda Express... REALLY!?!?!? That qualifies as food?

It's not bad in a pinch. But I was in Schaumburg a few years ago and planned to go to Yu's Mandarin which is just awesome. But it was Saturday and the wait was about 90 minutes so we went to - Panda Express - instead.

I took quite the ribbing later on. "Oh yeah, that's just as good as Yu's!" (said sarcastically).

35 posted on 03/08/2015 12:34:25 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: grania

Thanks for the response I would go look again as it has been years since I went there.


36 posted on 03/08/2015 12:34:46 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: CARTOUCHE

A few years ago, one market labeled the bruised produce “organic” and raised the price-they got busted...

People out here who drive the extra miles and pay the extra money for “organic” produce are the Birkenstock bunch. If I grow the veggie, or my neighbor does, then I know how organic it is-but that doesn’t happen in the winter, so I buy it in the store-most likely grown in Mexico or in a greenhouse-it is still a fresh veggie-just not as tasty as mine...

I think a lot of people miss the point of eating fresh food-fresh and not processed is healthier because nothing is added to preserve it, and free range animals are leaner and healthier-it is more about that than what goes on an avocado or asparagus when it is growing. And carbs from grains are still carbs-they make you overweight, and have little real nutrition. Carbs from fresh veggies-carrots, squash, etc have real nutritional value.


37 posted on 03/08/2015 12:37:18 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5
Are people in cities really as into eating out casually/fast as this article implies? It wasn’t that way when I lived in the burbs 10 years ago...

Unequivocally yes.

I'm old enough to remember when dining out was a comparatively rare occasion and then only on rare occasions. Unless you were out on a date, celebrating an anniversary or other event, you pretty much ate and entertained at home.

At least here in the Northeast, on a typical Friday or Saturday night, the lines are out the door and waits for tables can be up to two hours long. On Friday night, my wife and I waited 90 minutes for a table at Texas Roadhouse. I probably had about a pound of peanuts while waiting! Even during the week, the restaurant business is brisk.

For better or worse, it has now become a rarity to cook at home for city and suburban people and even then, it's usually throwing frozen pizzas or pot pies in the oven, heating up soups or throwing together a quick pasta dish.

My grown sons, Gen-Xers, pretty much live at places like Chipotles, Starbucks, and the various chicken and pizza places that surround their apartments. They fire up the mobile Yelp app to find a place and then they text their friends and show up together.

During the recent snowstorms, their major complaint was that they were stuck at home with "nothing to eat."

Such is the culture of young people today.

38 posted on 03/08/2015 12:37:54 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Organic Panic
Never been in a Panda Express but they showed up as one of the fastest growing fast casual chains. Typically when I want to eat Chinese, I go to places where the customers, and not just the workers, are Oriental! If you walk into a Chinese restaurant and all the customers are non Oriental, do yourself a favor and walk out.

Every shopping mall in America has one of two of those fast-food Oriental places in the food court. I shy away from them, along with anything else that resides in a "food court."

Most shopping malls now have stand-alone restaurants like Buffalo Wild Wings, Red Robin or a Yard House. Those are much better places to hang out (and have a beer or two) while the wife is shopping.

39 posted on 03/08/2015 12:44:13 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

Burger Fi,small chain great food and priced right.


40 posted on 03/08/2015 12:45:42 PM PDT by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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