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1 posted on 03/03/2015 12:09:15 PM PST by nickcarraway
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The bitter fruits of this moral relativism come in news reports of teenagers murdering small children and infants and showing neither an ounce of remorse or an understanding as to why it’s wrong. Something has gone horribly wrong in this society.


2 posted on 03/03/2015 12:15:15 PM PST by ScottinVA (GOP = Geldings Obama Possesses)
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To: nickcarraway
What an idiot “philosopher” this author is.
3 posted on 03/03/2015 12:16:47 PM PST by subterfuge (Minneseeota: the laughingstock of the nation - for lots of reasons!)
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To: nickcarraway

This was to be expected. Apart from a transcendent God there can be no objective morality, only personal preference and social convention.


4 posted on 03/03/2015 12:18:22 PM PST by circlecity
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To: nickcarraway
several who deny that there are any moral facts whatsoever.

That sounds like a moral absolute to me.

/johnny

5 posted on 03/03/2015 12:18:37 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: nickcarraway
Why Our Children Don’t Think There Are Moral Facts

Because they haven't been taught there are moral TRUTHS (ie. the Bible).

6 posted on 03/03/2015 12:19:10 PM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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7 posted on 03/03/2015 12:27:46 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: nickcarraway

From a scientific standpoint, there is nothing “disturbing” about the two signs.

Is the author’s child attending second grade at that school to learn philosophy, ethics and/or religion, or is he there to learn reading, writing, math and science?


8 posted on 03/03/2015 12:28:11 PM PST by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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Why Our Children Don’t Think There Are Moral Facts
New York Times ^ | MARCH 2, 2015 | JUSTIN P. MCBRAYER

What would you say if you found out that our public schools were teaching children that it is not true that it’s wrong to kill people for fun or cheat on tests? Would you be surprised?

I was. As a philosopher, I already knew that many college-aged students don’t believe in moral facts. While there are no national surveys quantifying this phenomenon, philosophy professors with whom I have spoken suggest that the overwhelming majority of college freshman in their classrooms view moral claims as mere opinions that are not true or are true only relative to a culture.

What I didn’t know was where this attitude came from. - Given the presence of moral relativism in some academic circles, some people might naturally assume that philosophers themselves are to blame. - But they aren’t. - There are historical examples of philosophers who endorse a kind of moral relativism, dating back at least to Protagoras who declared that “man is the measure of all things,” and several who deny that there are any moral facts whatsoever.

But such creatures are rare. Besides, if students are already showing up to college with this view of morality, it’s very unlikely that it’s the result of what professional philosophers are teaching. -- So where is the view coming from?

A few weeks ago, I learned that students are exposed to this sort of thinking well before crossing the threshold of higher education. When I went to visit my son’s second grade open house, I found a troubling pair of signs hanging over the bulletin board. They read: ..."

Check out article

10 posted on 03/03/2015 12:29:37 PM PST by LucyT
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To: nickcarraway

Ask them to describe a situation where rape is moral. Ask them to describe a situation where the torture of an innocent is moral. Ask them to describe a situation where plagiarism is moral.


14 posted on 03/03/2015 12:59:58 PM PST by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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Why Our Children Don’t Think There Are Moral Facts

17 posted on 03/03/2015 1:11:46 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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The sex positive agenda (waged by Reich, Kinsey, and socialist feminists) seeks to end ALL moral judgments regarding sexual pairings of ANY kind (regardless of sex, age, relation, marital status, number, or species of partner(s)). The proponents seek to see everyone sexually active at every age and since they see orgasm as a birthright, they are defiantly anti-abstinence. They call it ‘unhealthy’ but the real issue is that self-restraint and saying NO are counter to their whole worldview.


21 posted on 03/03/2015 1:21:54 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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22 posted on 03/03/2015 1:26:10 PM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: nickcarraway

Methinks the author is missing something obvious.

There are different varieties of “truths” or “facts.”

To my mind a fact is something that can be objectively demonstrated: 2+2=4; gravity causes things to fall down. All facts are truths.

But not all truths are facts. “We hold these truths to be self-evident...” for example. That is not a “fact,” moral or otherwise. It cannot be demonstrated, because it is based on principles that are outside the physical realm. In fact, while I believe “these truths” ARE truths, it is also true that no two people are equal in any measurable sense.

IOW, there are several types of truths. Facts are just one of them.


23 posted on 03/03/2015 1:31:53 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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See my parents were nuts. They thought that it was their responsibility to teach me right from wrong. They were some how under the impression that it was schools responsibility to teach me Readn, writing, and rithmatic.

They took me Church, made me go to Sunday school.

My Father taught me how to hold doors open for ladies (Yes young man, your sisters are ladies.) and how to have a firm handshake, because a mans word is his bond.

We were taught to have responsibility by having chores around the house, and how to save money rather than waste it on foolish items, because you didn't know when it was going to be a rainy day.

Boy were they screwed up.

24 posted on 03/03/2015 1:59:28 PM PST by verga (I might as well be playing Chess with a pigeon.)
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To: nickcarraway

A VERY interesting article.

I’m amazed that it is from the NY Times.

From the Opinion Page, nonetheless.

Those who read the whole article will get the irony in that ...


26 posted on 03/03/2015 3:19:41 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: nickcarraway

It is the fruit of materialism.


27 posted on 03/03/2015 5:42:07 PM PST by WriteOn (Truth)
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