Posted on 02/20/2015 6:01:20 PM PST by LibWhacker
Infinity Is a Beautiful Concept And Its Ruining Physics
I was seduced by infinity at an early age. Georg Cantors diagonality proof that some infinities are bigger than others mesmerized me, and his infinite hierarchy of infinities blew my mind. The assumption that something truly infinite exists in nature underlies every physics course Ive ever taught at MITand, indeed, all of modern physics. But its an untested assumption, which begs the question: Is it actually true?
There are in fact two separate assumptions: infinitely big and infinitely small. By infinitely big, I mean that space can have infinite volume, that time can continue forever, and that there can be infinitely many physical objects. By infinitely small, I mean the continuumthe idea that even a liter of space contains an infinite number of points, that space can be stretched out indefinitely without anything bad happening, and that there are quantities in nature that can vary continuously.
The two assumptions are closely related, because inflation, the most popular explanation of our Big Bang, can create an infinite volume by stretching continuous space indefinitely. The theory of inflation has been spectacularly successful and is a leading contender for a Nobel Prize. It explains how a subatomic speck of matter transformed into a massive Big Bang, creating a huge, flat, uniform universe, with tiny density fluctuations that eventually grew into todays galaxies and cosmic large-scale structureall in beautiful agreement with precision measurements from experiments such as the Planck and the BICEP2 experiments. But by predicting that space isnt just big but truly infinite, inflation has also brought about the so-called measure problem, which I view as the greatest crisis facing modern physics.
Physics is all about predicting the future from the past, but inflation seems to sabotage this. When we try to predict the probability that something particular will happen, inflation always gives the same useless answer: infinity divided by infinity. The problem is that whatever experiment you make, inflation predicts there will be infinitely many copies of you, far away in our infinite space, obtaining each physically possible outcome; and despite years of teeth-grinding in the cosmology community, no consensus has emerged on how to extract sensible answers from these infinities. So, strictly speaking, we physicists can no longer predict anything at all!
This means that todays best theories need a major shakeup by retiring an incorrect assumption. Which one? Heres my prime suspect: ∞.
A rubber band cant be stretched indefinitely, because although it seems smooth and continuous, thats merely a convenient approximation. Its really made of atoms, and if you stretch it too far, it snaps. If we similarly retire the idea that space itself is an infinitely stretchy continuum, then a big snap of sorts stops inflation from producing an infinitely big space and the measure problem goes away. Without the infinitely small, inflation cant make the infinitely big, so you get rid of both infinities in one fell swooptogether with many other problems plaguing modern physics, such as infinitely dense black-hole singularities and infinities popping up when we try to quantize gravity.
In the past, many venerable mathematicians were skeptical of infinity and the continuum. The legendary Carl Friedrich Gauss denied that anything infinite really exists, saying Infinity is merely a way of speaking and I protest against the use of infinite magnitude as something completed, which is never permissible in mathematics. In the past century, however, infinity has become mathematically mainstream, and most physicists and mathematicians have become so enamored with infinity that they rarely question it. Why? Basically, because infinity is an extremely convenient approximation for which we havent discovered convenient alternatives.
Consider, for example, the air in front of you. Keeping track of the positions and speeds of octillions of atoms would be hopelessly complicated. But if you ignore the fact that air is made of atoms and instead approximate it as a continuuma smooth substance that has a density, pressure, and velocity at each pointyoull find that this idealized air obeys a beautifully simple equation explaining almost everything we care about: how to build airplanes, how we hear them with sound waves, how to make weather forecasts, and so forth. Yet despite all that convenience, air of course isnt truly continuous. I think its the same way for space, time, and all the other building blocks of our physical world.
Lets face it: Despite their seductive allure, we have no direct observational evidence for either the infinitely big or the infinitely small. We speak of infinite volumes with infinitely many planets, but our observable universe contains only about 1089 objects (mostly photons). If space is a true continuum, then to describe even something as simple as the distance between two points requires an infinite amount of information, specified by a number with infinitely many decimal places. In practice, we physicists have never managed to measure anything to more than about seventeen decimal places. Yet real numbers, with their infinitely many decimals, have infested almost every nook and cranny of physics, from the strengths of electromagnetic fields to the wave functions of quantum mechanics. We describe even a single bit of quantum information (qubit) using two real numbers involving infinitely many decimals.
Not only do we lack evidence for the infinite but we dont need the infinite to do physics. Our best computer simulations, accurately describing everything from the formation of galaxies to tomorrows weather to the masses of elementary particles, use only finite computer resources by treating everything as finite. So if we can do without infinity to figure out what happens next, surely nature can, tooin a way thats more deep and elegant than the hacks we use for our computer simulations.
Our challenge as physicists is to discover this elegant way and the infinity-free equations describing itthe true laws of physics. To start this search in earnest, we need to question infinity. Im betting that we also need to let go of it.
Our challenge as physicists is to discover this elegant way and the infinity-free equations describing itthe true laws of physics. To start this search in earnest, we need to question infinity. Im betting that we also need to let go of it.
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Maybe infinity is like the imaginary number and they should get rid of that, too.
Playing with infinities is all fun and games...until someone loses their mind.
I think the amount of derivatives may be infinite.
Most physicists don’t believe that infinity exists. There are some quantities which are very large and others that are extreme;y small but infinities only arise in mathematical abstraction and description of the physical world, but not in the real world.
infinity / infinity = unity. —
But anything divided by 0 = infinity, so
infinity = anything/0, and substituting in:
(exercise left to student) ...
anything / anything = 1
it will be reduced to potty talk —
Of course:
Poop / 0 = infinity.
Clever quip bob...
I’m sorry, It’s been a pretty trying day.
Actually, my formula did describe the situation.
I understand. In a society run by poop brained mentally ill lunatics, it’s difficult to have a good day.
But that was way more work than it was worth, don't you think? I do, and I'm outta here.
poop brained mentally ill lunatics / their IQ,
Well, the sky’s the limit.
Yes they did, but I didn't. BTW, you might believe it's contradictory, but what you believe and what the actual reality is likely conflict.
I'm outta here.
Cheers...
When I was five years old, an older Lady who lived upstairs from us was babysitting me.
We ware sitting on the Stoop (front porch) the enjoying the evening and looking up at the Stars in the Sky. I turned to the poor Lady and asked, where does Space end?
She looked at me like I was a Community Organizer from Chicago and I don’t think she really answered my question.
When my Parents got home, she told my Mother that I was an “interesting” Child. LOL
Once upon a time, somebody heard the expression "begs the question" and started using it without bothering to find out what it means.
Even worse, although it has appeared on many lists of "commonly misused expressions," there still exist so-called writers who keep misusing it. They should, of course, be lined up against a wall and...
If something can be “twice as small” or “one-thousand times as small”—and “journalists” tell us these things all the time—why can’t something be “infinitely small”?
God is infinite! (That is, too big to care if I sleep with the babysitter.)
The atheist's creed.
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The most accurate summation of the Atheist religion I've ever read. Brilliant.
Or, “ten times quieter” or “three times less filling” or...
She was speechless. That was probably a, "WTF are you talking about, where's my lunch" look she was emitting. You misread it...maybe not....lol
Oh, I did not intend to say that “Infinitely small” is not plausible. All I said was that he left out “Finitely small”. ;-)
“Not only is the universe stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine.” Sir Arthur Eddington
English astronomer (1882 - 1944)
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