Dr. Suzanne Humphries, MD - Vaccine Strain of Measles Virus Found in Measles Outbreaks

Health Impact News ^ | 2/12/15 | Editor

[Secret Agent Man]

Dr. Suzanne Humphries is a practicing nephrologist (kidney physician). In this lecture (video below), she addresses a study done in Croatia [1] where a child who was vaccinated with the MMR vaccine was tested positive for the measles vaccine strain Schwarz eight days after vaccination.

This was a significant finding, because the child’s symptoms were thought to be similar to rubella, and without testing, the sickness would have been possibly mis-diagnosed as rubella, or the wild-type strain of measles the vaccine is designed to protect against.

This concept of “shedding,” where the child comes down with the disease from the virus in the vaccine itself, surprised the researchers:

Virus excretion in vaccinees has been reported before, but to our knowledge, this is documented for the first time for the Schwarz vaccine strain. [1]

Since 2010, this phenomena of vaccine shedding with measles in the MMR vaccine has been observed in at least two other studies: (excerpt) - read article for more

[azkathy]

Glad to see you are good with graphics. Some questions that I would like to ask the Pro-Vax-average person follows

1. Have you listened or read about the Congressional Hearings on vaccine safety/issues? Rep. Bill Posey asks some tough questions: “Has the CDC done a study comparing vaccinated children with unvaccinated children yet?” Reply from Dr. Boyle: “we have never studied vaccinated versus unvaccinated.” Rep. Posey asks if research by Paul Thorsen clearing thimerosal from causing autism has been validated, and calls him a “humongous scumbag” and one of the most wanted men on the face of the earth. Learn more about Dr. Poul Thorsen -(CDC scientist indicted for fraud, money laundering, etc.) Dr. Boyle replies that that two studies Dr. Thorsen participated in do not invalidate the “larger body” of research on thimerosal and vaccines, and yet just moments before stating that, she admitted that the CDC had only conducted two studies on the issue. - See more at: http://healthimpactnews.com/.../video-highlights-from.../...

2. Why does the CDC recommend that newborn babies be vaccinated for Hep B when most newborns are not at risk for catching a blood born disease spread by dirty needles, risky behavior, etc. ?

3.CDC Whistleblower William Thompson admitted numerous things about the research fraud and “paralysis” at the CDC regarding anything to do with autism. He said they were probably 10 years behind. Where is the Media Coverage/Government Public relations campaign to help people understand the ramifications of the conditions Thompson describes????? #CDCWhistleblower

4. I find it amazing that more people are not concerned and dismayed at the attack on personal freedom and the vilification of people who make a personal medical decision. I read a Time magazine article stating that the names, addresses of people who don’t vaccinate should be published and even suggesting people should be marked should they chose not to vaccinate. I thought Oh my God, are we on our way to Nazi Germany?

“If the State can tag, track down and force citizens against their will to be injected with biologicals of known and unknown toxicity today, there will be no limit on which individual freedoms the State can take away in the name of the greater good tomorrow.”
— Barbara Loe Fisher, Co-Founder NVIC

[azkathy]

There is some good information here http://truthstreammedia.com/right-to-vaccinate-vs-medical-tyranny-what-happened-to-freedom-of-choice/

[DannyTN]

prior to the vaccine, 450 people died from the measles in the U.S. each year

[Talisker]

Yeah so pro-vax databases are trustworthy even if referenced through snopes and the rest of the otherwise untrustworthy internet, while anti-VAX databases are misunderstood you the riff-raff and MDs who are anti-vax got their degrees out of Cracker Jack boxes.

And any reasonable questions people have about overloading infant immune systems with dozens of vaccines containing garbage and poison adjuvants in way higher doses than their listed danger amounts is irrelevant, and those reports about the continued use of mercury and the verified connection with autism is also bogus because, well, other reports deny it.

And the fact that pro-vaccine doctors, researchers and studies overwhelmingly get grant money, and that these studies support the creation of laws that protect a multi-billion dollar industry, have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the difference in sheet numbers of pro-vax versus anti-vax reports.

And finally, any flaws in both the theory and observed results if studies in herd immunity are pseudoscience, because outraged angry insults can still drown out the number of people waking up to this most fundamental pseudoscientific global warming-level fraud.

Got it.

[Talisker]

I’m sorry you are a coward - it must be tough because there is no vaccine for cowardice.

This is just abuse, and I've reported you for it.

Take your filthy juvenile mouth somewhere else. FR is for adults who can carry on an intelligent discussion.

[azkathy]

One thing I have noticed, is that the Pro Vax shills consistently use the Rules for Radicals technique, RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

Don’t let them get to you. Just this morning I found out about another family member who is autistic and the parents feel it is connected to the immunizations.

[azkathy]

Here’s some good info linked here http://www.aapsonline.org/testimony/mandvac.htm

FACT SHEET ON MANDATORY VACCINES

AAPS does not oppose vaccines. AAPS has never taken an anti-vaccine position, although opponents have tried to paint that picture.

AAPS has only attempted to halt government or school districts from blanket vaccine mandates that violate parental informed consent.

42 states have mandatory vaccine policies, and many children are required 22 shots by first grade.

According to government statistics, children under the age of 14 are three times more likely to suffer adverse effects — including death — following the hepatitis B vaccine than to catch the disease itself.

The Centers for Disease Control admits that the reported number of adverse effects of vaccines is probably only 10% of actual adverse effects.

The Physician’s Desk Reference cites adverse reactions to the hepatitis B in less than 1 percent. However, if more than 70 million American children receive the vaccine, that means more than 700,000 children are likely to suffer adverse reactions.

Children are a very low risk group for hepatitis B. Primary risk factors are dependent on lifestyle, i.e. multiple sex partners, drug abuse or an occupation with exposure to blood.

Rampant conflicts of interest in the approval process has been the subject of several Congressional hearings, and a recent Congressional report concluded that the pharmaceutical industry has indeed exerted undue influence on mandatory vaccine legislation toward its own financial interests.

The vaccine approval process has also been contaminated by flawed or incomplete clinical trials, and government officials have chosen to ignore negative results. For example, the CDC was forced to withdraw its recommendation of the rotavirus vaccine within one year of approval. Yet public documents obtained by AAPS show that the CDC was aware of alarmingly high intussuception rates months before the vaccine was approved and recommended.

Mandatory vaccines violate the medical ethic of informed consent.

A case could also be made that mandates for vaccines by school districts and legislatures is the de facto practice of medicine without a license.

The CDC’s own “Guide to Contraindications to Childhood Vaccination” warns that when assessing children’s common symptoms, “if any one of them is a contraindication, DO NOT VACCINATE” [caps added]. And yet, under legislated mandates, the vaccines are still required.

[Secret Agent Man]

And you don’t take all the pro-vaccine folks with the same grain of salt, you damn hypocrite.

You put blind faith in doctors and “science”. That kills an awful lot of people every year. Doctors who don’t try to cure anything anymore, just maintain people on drugs forever, or give them “vaccines” that don’t guarantee anything - in the fine print - and if they’re so harmless why do the drug companies beg Congress for blanket immunity from damages their vaccines can cause people?

Where the F$CK do you get off demanding anyone else damage or kill themselves for you? When it isn’t even guaranteed by the company to work? Talk about a selfish a$$hole. That’s all you buddy. You talk about conservatism and being rugged individualists, you’re nothing but a totalitarian statist who would love to have government force everyone to do everything you think is right if they tell you it makes you safer.

I hope I never have to experience you in person, I’ll spit in your socialist, self-centered face.

[Morpheus2009]

Never knew polio numbers were that low, do they have a source on that?

[Axenolith]

Note your reply in #26...

It’s applicable here

If you don’t bring your A Game to the rhetoric fest, you look like a moron.

[Axenolith]

That's a typo. On their same site it states that is the total number of average cases over the years. FAR fewer people were actually "crippled".

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/polio/dis-faqs.htm

[Axenolith]

While I find it a stretch to equate vaccination with “autism”, I find it abhorrent that any one who considers themselves an American citizen could justify forcing others to immunize themselves or their offspring.

The whole concept of “childhood” and the insecurities that any parent has for their children has provided statists the ideal tools to infringe upon the liberties of the whole profoundly.

It’ll be probably 5 posts max before some idiot responds “Well, if you don’t think parents should be forced to vaccinate, you probably think kids can be used for free labor etc...

People need to look at it this way, if a given child faced an X percent greater (and “X” is a small, but non zero number usually) chance of death as the down side to living in a society rife with liberty versus a totalitarian shithole, which would you take?

If there is some World War Z plague scything down humanity which has a vaccine developed, you can bet your ass I’m lining up for it if offered, but if some bozo wants to sell me on having children immunized for diseases that are less than flu level mortality or you need to engage in crazy reckless hedonism to catch, no thanks.

[Axenolith]

It’s in the CDC’s site

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/polio/dis-faqs.htm

[Morpheus2009]

Couldn’t find the actual number for the height, but the fact that somehow polio was harmless, or didn’t provoke symptoms in the majority of those infected is a problem, given that parents who have vulnerable children were playing Russian Roulette with what the virus could do. Polio is a problem given that the majority infected are asymptomatic carriers of the virus. However, comparing polio to measles, well, measles is a lot less terrible. Like I often say, the flu makes a lot of diseases look pretty weak and tame, even nowadays.

[Morpheus2009]

I never agreed with or liked the immunity to lawsuits part. I mean, if a lawsuit is just plain silly, then a decent review usually gets it thrown out for the absurdity that it presents.

[MortMan]

You’re getting pretty close to clinching the Captain Ad Hominem prize for 2015. You’ve lost the argument because you fail to address any valid point the other side raises.

[vbmoneyspender]

It's not an ad hominem to call an idiot an idiot. And anyone who thinks that children shouldn't be required to get the polio or smallpox or measles vaccines is an idiot.

[MortMan]

You really need to look up the definition.

You lost the debate because you didn’t address the opinion, but rather attacked the poster. Your incomplete straw man scenarios didn’t have the impact you wanted. But that is the nature of straw men.

[vbmoneyspender]

Your attempt to waive away the horrors of polio is a monstrous lie. Every one who comes on this thread should know that polio was a horrific disease that afflicted thousands of Americans every year starting in the early 1900s. In 1952 alone, almost 60,000 cases were reported and over 3,000 people died from the polio virus. And of the 7 major epidemics reported in the United States during the 20th Century, 3 involved polio. Here is a link to the major epidemics in the United States since its creation: See Link

Anyone who lived during the time before the polio vaccine was developed, knows what it was like to have to worry about your children getting polio and being crippled for life. To deny this history and to deny the fact that polio killed thousands of Americans and crippled tens of thousands of Americans is evil. There is no other word for it.

I am not writing this message for anti-vaccine people. They generally appear to be beyond reason. And are historically illiterate to boot. But if you are interested in the history of polio in the United States, here is a quick summary:

On Saturday, June 17, 1916 an official announcement of the existence of an epidemic polio infection was made in Brooklyn, New York. That year, there were over 27,000 cases and more than 6,000 deaths due to polio in the United States, with over 2,000 deaths in New York City alone.[13] The names and addresses of individuals with confirmed polio cases were published daily in the press, their houses were identified with placards, and their families were quarantined.[14] Dr. Hiram M. Hiller, Jr., was one of the physicians in several cities who realized what they were dealing with, but the nature of the disease remained largely a mystery. The 1916 epidemic caused widespread panic and thousands fled the city to nearby mountain resorts; movie theaters were closed, meetings were canceled, public gatherings were almost nonexistent, and children were warned not to drink from water fountains, and told to avoid amusement parks, swimming pools, and beaches.[13] From 1916 onward, a polio epidemic appeared each summer in at least one part of the country, with the most serious occurring in the 1940s and 1950s.[1] In the epidemic of 1949, 2,720 deaths from the disease occurred in the United States and 42,173 cases were reported and Canada and the United Kingdom were also affected.[15][16]

Prior to the 20th century polio infections were rarely seen in infants before 6 months of age and most cases occurred in children 6 months to 4 years of age.[17] Young children who contract polio generally suffer only mild symptoms, but as a result they become permanently immune to the disease.[18] In developed countries during the late 19th and early 20th centuries, improvements were being made in community sanitation, including improved sewage disposal and clean water supplies. Better hygiene meant that infants and young children had fewer opportunities to encounter and develop immunity to polio. Exposure to poliovirus was therefore delayed until late childhood or adult life, when it was more likely to take the paralytic form.[17]

In children, paralysis due to polio occurs in 1/1000 cases, while in adults, paralysis occurs in 1/75 cases.[19] By 1950, the peak age incidence of paralytic poliomyelitis in the United States had shifted from infants to children aged 5 to 9 years; about one-third of the cases were reported in persons over 15 years of age.[20] Accordingly, the rate of paralysis and death due to polio infection also increased during this time.[1] In the United States, the 1952 polio epidemic would be the worst outbreak in the nation's history, and is credited with heightening parents’ fears of the disease and focusing public awareness on the need for a vaccine.[21] Of the 57,628 cases reported that year 3,145 died and 21,269 were left with mild to disabling paralysis.[21][22]

[vbmoneyspender]

Do you think that children should be required to be vaccinated for polio, smallpox and measles?