Posted on 02/08/2015 7:00:33 AM PST by Kaslin
Jury selection for the trial for Eddie Routh, the man who killed American Sniper Chris Kyle and fellow Navy SEAL Chad Littlefield, is supposed to begin this week in Stephenville, Texas.
For months we’ve been hearing that Eddie suffered from PTSD and that the VA is to blame for not getting him on potent enough dope, or too-potent dope; and failed to farm him out to an exorcist to have his war demons banished forever; and thus, the VA is the reason Eddie snapped and killed an American icon and his fellow SEAL friend.
Heck, I’m surprised we haven’t heard “The Low Blood Sugar Excuse” tossed out there as the reason Routh killed Kyle: “Eddie, you see, has low blood sugar, and if he‘d had a Snickers, Chris would still be alive.”
Or… or… “Eddie could have also killed Chris and Chad because his third grade teacher never called on him during class when he raised his hand, and that wounded his inner-child, and that’s why Eddie murdered two stellar and innocent soldiers who were trying to help him.”
Why not parlay those excuses as well? The aforementioned makes about as much sense as the PTSD defense that’s been batted around on Eddie’s behalf. A pretext, mind you, that is currently getting severely hammered by the Warfighter Foundation.
Check it out …
The Warfighter Foundation alleged that Eddie Ray Routh, 27, the Marine veteran accused of murdering Navy SEAL Kyle two years ago, never saw combat nor experienced traumatic situations during his time serving overseas.
Eddie Routh served one tour in Iraq in 2007, at Balad Air Base (the 2nd largest U.S. installation in Iraq), with no significant events. No combat experience. Let me say that again, he NEVER SAW COMBAT or any aspect of traumatic events associated with a combat deployment (i.e. incoming mortar or rocket fire). He never left the base, EVER.
The Warfighter Foundation, a nonprofit veterans group, filed a Freedom of Information Act request to obtain information about Routh’s service record. It was through the information they received that the group discovered Routh had not experienced any type of combat.
Matter of fact, the base that Mr. PTSD was stationed at was pretty cush.
According to MilitaryBases.com:
Joint Base Balad benefited from some of the best facilities. It was almost a luxurious installation. The military troops had access to swimming pools, dancing lessons, a movie theater, American restaurants and snack bars. The housing facilities were just as advanced. The facilities were probably some of the most important factors that drew the celebrities and officials’ attention during their visits.
Sounds rough, eh? Pools, Pizza Hut, Dancing, Movies … holy crap… oh, the pain.
Garsh … that’s enough to push even the strongest amongst us over the edge and compel one to murder innocent friends who’re trying to help you out, right? No? Yeah, I guess you’re right. Sounds like BS to me, also. However, maybe Eddie imagined, like Brian Williams, that he was actually in war, when he wasn’t, and that’s how he got PTSD. That’s a possibility…
Another interesting twist in The PTSD Eddie Routh Ruse came from the laptop of Walid Shoebat last week. Walid, an expert in all things Islam, points out some interesting and very overlooked ditties about Eddie.
Check out these interesting, and Islamic, nuggets from Walid…
When we evaluate cases for potential Muslim terrorists, we always look for physical signs like a trimmed mustache and a beard that is lesser trimmed. And when it comes to a crime that was committed, we look at who the victims are. In the story on Eddie Routh who murdered Chris Kyle, there are signs of concern, especially the facial hair, it does match the profile of a convert.
Also, Routh was a prison guard over Muslim terrorists at Balad Airbase in Baghdad in 2007. He never served in battle, but spent most of his time looking and talking to Muslims in jail. He could have likely interacted with the inmates and got converted; prison has a higher conversion rate than any mosque. Also, why would he kill a Navy SEAL who was known to have killed so many terrorists? [Especially, given that Kyle had a price on his head?]
Examining [Kyle’s] killer gives also clues. “During a phone call with his father, Routh expressed sympathy for the detainees and discontent over how the US was conducting the war as well as his reluctance to engage in combat” and “While working as a guard at Balad Air Base, Routh laments his [Muslim] prisoners’ poor living conditions”.
Let's sum up Shoebat’s alarms: Routh spent a lot of time and sympathized with Islamic radical prisoners and was sporting the no-mustache-with-beard Muslim facial hair when he came back and killed Kyle.
Sounds kinda weird to this redneck, but then again maybe Eddie really admired Abe Lincoln’s facial hair.
If Routh went Cuckoo after getting out of the military I doubt it was due to PTSD. Again they don’t just let you into the military because you walk into the recruiting office. I’ll be interested to hear what kind of psychotropic drugs the docs had him on when he went to the gun range.
From my readings on PTSD most people who have it are not violent. They are fearful and if anything they may harm themselves.
Can you believe that guys like Chris Kyle and his friend would have taken somebody who they knew had already threatened to kill people to a gun range and stick a loaded weapon in his hand? I doubt it. They were security experts.
The whole thing is weird.
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There is a strong suspicion, perhaps even a medical diagnosis, that he was a paranoid schizophrenic, which would make a lot of sense. Schizophrenia is a cruel disease, and most of the time it begins slowly and becomes progressively worse.
Typically the age window for developing schizophrenia is from age 16 to 28, but importantly, that window is divided in half based on how the disease manifests itself.
In the earlier years, victims demonstrate large deficits on almost all cognitive measures: arithmetic, executive function, IQ, psychomotor speed of processing and verbal memory.
Those with late-onset schizophrenia demonstrate minimal deficits on arithmetic, digit symbol coding and vocabulary, but larger ones on attention, fluency, global cognition, IQ and visuospatial construction.
Importantly paranoid schizophrenia may be a different kind of schizophrenia altogether. Just paranoids, without schizophrenia, are known for their acute senses and strong cognitive faculties, seemingly the opposite from just schizophrenics. Having both conditions is different from having just one or the other.
In any event, the disease might take years before it is obvious, both to others and the person themselves.
Even if it’s an ugly beard
Of course they aren’t. Those that are goofs are the ones who don’t know the difference between an author of an article as in Doug Giles and the site that published the article. They don’t get it that Townhall.com did not write the article
the pecker should be tied to a post at a thousand yards and let the least newest and least skilled snipers practice with him.
Congrats yourself. I’ll reply to an ad hominem attack in my own way. The person replying to me used the “f” word. Reading through all the posts when commenting would probably help your comprehension.
It sure does and there are plenty of examples
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You said it
Newsflash: Anything posted on TH’s website represents them.
Unless of course TH is a blog where anyone can post full-length articles, then I take that back.
I agree that if the guy was going nuts it was after he got out of the military and not from PTSD.
My thing is that I still do not see two battle hardened security experts even entertaining taking a Schizoid who already threatened to kill people out on a gun range with a loaded weapon. It just makes no sense. Fishing maybe, hiking, backpacking, horseback riding that kind of stuff.
If some family you didn’t know called you and told you that their son was suffering from Schizophrenic paranoia and had been locked up once or twice already for threatening to kill himself and others would you say “Hey lets take him to the gun range?” Of course you wouldn’t.
The whole thing just does not add up. It just feels weird.
Maybe a better picture will come out at the trial.
That’s my point. Saying a semi-automatic handgun is kind of vague without mentioning the brand and the caliber or the pistol. I can’t believe this wasn’t reported anywhere and I have looked for months.
He and his mother claimed he had PTSD, and Kyle had set up an organization to help veterans with PTSD.
“Kyle paired with FITCO Cares Foundation, a nonprofit organization which created the Heroes Project to provide free in-home fitness equipment, individualized programs, personal training, and life-coaching to in-need veterans with disabilities, Gold Star families, or those suffering from posttraumatic stress disorder.”
And, oddly enough, while the VA seems to think that veterans with PTSD should be disarmed, they are not generally considered a threat to others with guns. If anything, they might be suicidal. But if they are not suicidal, firing guns at a range might be therapeutic.
Not so with paranoid schizophrenics, however.
Bingo!
Does it really make a difference what brand and caliber the pistol was?
I have a feeling nobody bothered to clue Kyle and his friend in on the Schizoid paranoia or the fact that the guy was threatening to kill people.
Its true that people with PTSD are not usually violent and a threat only to themselves. I doubt the guy had PTSD at all as the article is postulating.
It is kind of relevant to the story and odd they would omit this fact. Does the movie address this?
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