Posted on 02/05/2015 2:53:23 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
Williamsburg, Va. – Kimberlyn Williams feels unsafe in her own home because of her 12-year-old son.
“I am his mother and I do love him, but he`s dangerous,” Williams says.
She says he’s so dangerous that she is prepared to face jail time to keep him out of the house, to not only protect herself, but her two younger children.
“I have been hit, bit, kicked,” she says. “He has threatened to stab children at school, to kill them. He has these outbursts.”
She says her son is now at Riverside Behavioral Health Center in Hampton. He was put there after Williams called police last week because of what she says she witnessed between her son and four-year-old daughter.
“When I went in, I found him exposing himself to her and trying to coerce her to touch him,” Williams says.
Williams says that was the final straw after years of violent and inappropriate behavior, and years of trying to get him the help he needs.
“It`s not a case of us not trying to get him help,” she says. “This is not an isolated incident. It’s been a gauntlet of doctors and medications and diagnoses.”
Her son is set to be released Thursday, but Williams does not want to bring him home.
“If I do not show up to get him, I will face criminal charges or child abandonment,” she says.
Williams says Child Protective Services told her if she refuses to take him, her son would be placed in a 24-hour supervision residential facility — something she’s wanted all along. She says it would take police arresting her to get her wish.
“I want something to get done,” Williams says. “I don`t want it to be you take this one and you risk your other children’s health and safety or you go to jail. There has to be a better way.”
To get her son the help he needs, Williams says she’s prepared to face the consequences.
“Nobody wants to talk about this,” she says. “It`s something we would certainly consider a private family issue, but along those lines maybe it can help other people.”
Neither James City County Police nor CPS will comment
I should also add, that Congress has the Constitutional Authority to order the Court to remain Silent on an issue if they choose.
The kid in PA who killed an elderly woman was from a 2-parent home. Hisparents didn’t want him in the home either, so the bail application was withdrawn. Some are just bad seeds.
“Some are just bad seeds.”
Or mentally ill.
If parents don’t want the precedent of the state intruding on family care and responsibilities, then they must take care of themselves! Otherwise it’s simply inviting the state into family matters.
Some are just plain bad seeds.
If he breaks the law, then “to prison” it will be, according to our “rule of law”. As it stands at the moment, the parents must take responsibility. Parents have got to stop “handing off their responsibility” to the state, if parents want the state to stay out of family business.
“Why should the state take responsibility and pay for it, to boot?!”
So what’s the solution?
Should the 12 year old be turned out onto the street. Should the family be able to perform a mercy killing.
Should the mother have to keep the boy at home until he seriously hurts someone or successfully molests his 4 year old sister.
You have any real suggestions?
Hey! It’s a hassle for the family, to be sure, but if families want the state to stay out of family business, they’ve got to stop handing over family matters to the state. It may wreck their family, it may bankrupt them, it may be a total disaster ... but why is the state supposed to step in?
I have a friend who had two boys and one was the spawn of Satan. He attacked her etc. Very bad news. She finally had to put him in a military academy. I guess he is not a criminal now but totally estranged from her. Very sad.
Very true, My own soon to be 20 year old son is institutionalized at the moment. He is schizophrenic, which started to show itself around age 15. It was an epic legal battle to get him there, but we started before he turned 18.
This condition runs in my family, he has a cousin that is also schizophrenic, and there were at least three others in my mothers generation.
I don’t know Virginia laws but in Tennessee a parent who honest to goodness has a mentally disturbed child who is dangerous to self and others can petition the court to have the child declared Ward Of The State. A judge will order institutionalization if it is deemed needed by professional mental health experts. This isn’t a new crisis. It’s sad but such kids have always existed and it’s for their own safety and that of others they have to be committed and have professional 24/7/365 care. Such parents as these and the children need help & not threats.
” Hey! It’s a hassle for the family, to be sure, but if families want the state to stay out of family business, they’ve got to stop handing over family matters to the state. It may wreck their family, it may bankrupt them, it may be a total disaster ... but why is the state supposed to step in?”
So in answer to my question. No. You don’t have any suggestions.
Of course after the kid actually maims, kills, or rapes someboby, the state is going to take him then. Now that won’t help the dead, maimed, or raped persons any.
” My own soon to be 20 year old son is institutionalized at the moment.”
Mine too. He’s severely Autistic and when puberty hit its peak he got very aggressive. Luckily he didn’t really have a concept of mean or devious, just a weird rage.
He’s been in a group home for 3 years and now that the worst of puberty is over we haven’t had an incident in a couple of years.
I’m sorry - a difficult road for you, to be sure.
Your homepage intrigues me. What, exactly, qualifies as “2.7 cats?” LOL
Maybe “getting him help” didn’t really help at all. Neighborhood families could be at risk.
If this family lived next door to my family, which included young children, I’d certainly want someone to step in — the state, the church — anyone who could keep this dangerous kid away.
I helped out for a short time at an “exceptional children’s” facility where the parents had tons of money. Some of those very well dressed, good-looking kids were utterly terrifying. Believe me, you do NOT want to be approached by a 6’2, 180-lb kid who is severely mentally unbalanced with no sense of right and wrong and no brakes. Congenital retardation and some other disorders cannot be fixed.
I hope this woman finds some help that keeps her and the rest of the family —and community—safe.
The state has a responsibility to protect citizens from crime, which is why we pay taxes for police. That the potential criminal and victim are related is not an exception to this responsibility.
If families don’t want the state intruding on family affairs, then they must take responsibility. Otherwise it’s the state who is going to be the THIRD PARENT inside every family!
And the fact of the matter is that you don’t convict anyone of a crime before they commit it, or are “in the act” That’s the way it works with our Constitutional Republic. It’s due process.
If someone is mentally unstable so that they are a life-threatening danger to themselves or others ... that has to be legally established, and the requirements to establish that should be EXTREMELY RIGOROUS before anyone should be declared such. If the parents think he is, then it’s their responsibility to establish it. BUT while he is a minor and in their family, they should be the ones responsible for it, financially.
The doors opened to leave and the Boot came in the early to mid 1970's. I saw it happening in my hometown. Within two years downtown wasn't safe at night. Homelessness and crime skyrocketed overnight. The facility that housed them was finally torn down and politicians are fighting over who's developer buddy will get the prime real-estate. It was a facility that had been in operation with good results for over a century.
By 1985 I was working in a nursing home where the fortunate ones ended up. They were not capable of living even on the streets.
It was cruel was was done in the name of patients rights. It destroyed any hopes of family interventions and getting help yet government is quick to point the finger at family when someone who should not be living outside a secure environment are put on the streets where medications will not be taken or with family who can not control them. A percentage also end up in the suicide by Cop Stats.
Unless s person has signed a medical POA to a friend or family member many states including my own do not allow for family input as far as involuntary committals. If a family member has injuries and needs surgery anyone can sign. If a family member has a nervous breakdown and needs to be hospitalized and has made no advance directives for it then the state must decide. These laws no matter how well intended stink and do far more harm than good for all concerned.
“If families don’t want the state intruding on family affairs, then they must take responsibility. Otherwise it’s the state who is going to be the THIRD PARENT inside every family!
And the fact of the matter is that you don’t convict anyone of a crime before they commit it, or are “in the act” That’s the way it works with our Constitutional Republic. It’s due process.If someone is mentally unstable so that they are a life-threatening danger to themselves or others ... that has to be legally established, and the requirements to establish that should be EXTREMELY RIGOROUS before anyone should be declared such. If the parents think he is, then it’s their responsibility to establish it. BUT while he is a minor and in their family, they should be the ones responsible for it, financially.”
Do you hand over your family matters to the state?
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