Posted on 02/01/2015 7:29:20 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
Both quarterbacks have won four super bowls with their teams. Who's the greatest quarterback of all time? Joe Montana or Tom Brady?
Slinin’ Sammy Baugh.
In one of his books, John Madden said Namath was the QB who always scared him the most when he was putting together a game plan as the Raiders coach.
“But for the pick, Brady looses this game.”
I’ve listened to sore losers whine forever about games being rigged, and the end of this game for the first time I wonder. All year the talking heads praise the agility of a running quarterback like Russell Wilson, and they throw away the big game with a stupid play like that.
I have no horse in this race; as a Giants fan I’m not in awe of Tom Brady (18-1!), and easily concede he is a great quarterback. The Giants themselves had the “Miracle in the Meadowlands”, where they lost a game to Philly running a play on the last down when all they had to do was take a knee. People lost their jobs over that play; football itself lost a lot of credibility over this one.
He was closer to being 3-3 except for a bizarre play call by someone in the Seattle organization that loves to tout their quarterback’s agility.
When it comes to rating QBs based on how dominant they were compared to the rest of the NFL at the time, I'd go with Dan Marino as the greatest ... with maybe Dan Fouts at #2.
Montana definitely belongs up there as well. It's so hard to rank Brady because he plays in an era when QBs put up numbers that were unheard-of as recently as 10-15 years ago.
Montana's 4-0 record in the Super Bowl was impressive. With that in mind, what's even more impressive to a fan of the New York Giants is what happened in many of those years when the 49ers didn't even make it to the Super Bowl. Montana's playoff record against the Giants was only 2-3, and in two of those losses (the seasons the Giants went on to win Super Bowls XXI and XXV) he was knocked out of the game with an injury after a devastating hit.
P.S. The defense coordinator for the Giants in those years was none other than Bill Belichick.
Roger Staubach
His career was shortened by military service
Brady didn’t win this game. Pete Carrol gave it away with the stupidest call in the 49 years of the SB.
It was twelve years before another QB reached the 4,000-yard mark ... and that was Dan Fouts in 1979, after the NFL season had been extended from 14 to 16 games.
If the definition includes sportsmanship and demeanor, joe montana all the way. If it is just a pretty face and four rings, joe montana all the way.
Do i dispise rady, all the way. Mvp should have gonebto the seattle offensive coordinator for blowing that call.
RUN THE BALL
I think people tend to forget how bad the AFC was in general during the 80s. From 1982 (when the 49ers won their The Raiders were the only AFC team that managed a win until 1997. The Broncos and Dolphins teams the 49ers faced were not terribly good teams and were blown out in laughers.
I’d argue that Brady just managed to eviscerate one of the better NFL defenses in history... Montana never had to face as dominant a D in the Super Bowl. The Bengals D was pretty good, but nowhere near as dominant.
Brady’s great, no doubt, but Montana did it in an era when the defense could actually play defense, and there was no such thing as “throwing the ball away” when being chased by a defender.
Yes. If the greats like Montana, Unitas, Staubach, Bradshaw, etc. played under today’s passing rules, their stats would be cartoonish.
And I’ll say it again: The only reason the game was as close as it was is because of Brady’s 2 INT’s.
Edelman should have got the MVP.
And once more regarding Montana: UNDEFEATED in Super Bowl games and NEVER threw an INT. Pretty hard to beat that.
1. There were 109 passes thrown from the 1 yard line in the NFL this season. Yesterday was the first time one of them was intercepted.
2. Marshawn Lynch carried the ball 5 times from the 1 yard line this season. He only scored once.
Those interesting little tidbits put the play calling in a different perspective. I still would have handed the ball to Lynch. As John Madden used to tell his players: if you can't get one yard with the game on the line, then you're not a championship team.
Carroll was a fool. He had a timeout. Also throwing the pass stops the clock if it’s incomplete which would have given New England more time.
Actually if Seattle scores, Bellichick would have been hammered for not calling the timeouts earlier and leaving more time on the clock for New England to kick a potentially tying Field Goal. As it turned out, not taking the timeouts forced Seattle into thinking they had to throw.
See post #173. Just some interesting statistics there.
When you only throw 40 passes a year that is pretty good :)
i wouldn’t call it evisceration... and i live on delmarva and know what evisceration is all about...
pats won because of a bad call at the end... no doubt. mvp should have gone to the defensive player who intercepted for patriots. period.
The pass wasn’t a bad call against a goal line defense. But they should have thrown a fade pass, to minimize the likelihood of an interception.
If you are going to throw in that situation, you’d better be darned sure a receiver is wide open or you throw it away.
That play was too short of a throw to ensure the receiver would have been open. It simply is too crowded to take the risk.
1. The AFC had some good defensive teams in the 1980s. The problem is that they always seemed to lose in the playoffs to teams that went on to get destroyed in the Super Bowl. Take a look at the Cleveland Browns of the mid-80s. I thought a Browns-Bears or Browns-Giants or Browns-Redskins matchup in a Super Bowl would have been an all-time classic.
2. It's worth noting that the 49ers had to beat some dominant defensive teams just to get to their Super Bowls.
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