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To: Svartalfiar
To: Svartalfiar
So, this is a little ridiculous. I haven’t read the ordinance, but per the article the ban is public in/outdoor locations. It then goes on to say the ban applies to private bars, condos, businesses (privately owned!), and more. Not quite sure how that works.
To: Svartalfiar
Nudity, prostitution, public drunkenness, and looting are cultural icons in NOLA....
But SMOKING?????
5 posted on
01/23/2015 7:17:56 AM PST by
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7 posted on
01/23/2015 7:19:47 AM PST by
DJ MacWoW
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To: Svartalfiar
And homosexuals have no legal or constitutional right to expose ANYONE to their disgusting lifestyle choices.
When does the ban start?
8 posted on
01/23/2015 7:20:15 AM PST by
rfreedom4u
(Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
To: Svartalfiar
As long as they still let you puke on the sidewalk, it’s still New Orleans!
9 posted on
01/23/2015 7:22:29 AM PST by
Ditter
To: Svartalfiar
Claiming there is no constitutional right to smoke, the New Orleans City Council unanimously voted to outlaw smoking and electronic cigarettes in indoor and outdoor public places. Somewhere along the lines our overlords decided that the constitution defined OUR rights and if something wasn't listed in there, too bad for us. They fundamentally misread it (intentionally or through stupidity) to justify a supreme state with the people relegated to serfs.
And as a result, breathing water vapor outside is now illegal NOLA.
11 posted on
01/23/2015 7:23:37 AM PST by
pepsi_junkie
(Who is John Galt?)
To: Svartalfiar
That is a clear misinterpretation of Constitutional rights. We don't have, nor need a constitutional right to do anything. The Constitution regulates the government, not us.It enumerates many, but certainly not all, things that the government cannot deprive its citizens of. Free speech, freedom to assemble, freedom from search and siezure etc.
Another ducument mentions the pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness and smoking would fall under the happiness clause I guess. If you thing that your government hasn't gotten out of hand....think again while you still have that right!!!
12 posted on
01/23/2015 7:23:51 AM PST by
terycarl
(common sense prevails over all)
To: Svartalfiar
Claiming there is no constitutional right to smoke, the New Orleans City Council unanimously voted to outlaw smoking and electronic cigarettes in indoor and outdoor public places. Interesting (and unsupported) assertion.
Smoking was legal and common when the Constitution was debated and adopted.
Abortion was not.
Certain "Natural Rights" were assumed, taken for granted and did not need to be mentioned or debated, just as the Bill of Rights.
Contracts were sacrosanct, as well as ownerships of One's self.
I do not recall any Constitutional Amendments attempting to do away with those. The Bill of Rights is not subject to Amendment.
14 posted on
01/23/2015 7:24:01 AM PST by
publius911
(Formerly Publius6961)
To: Svartalfiar
Being able to smoke in a bar in New Orleans made it one of the last civilized cities in the US.
This law will be almost universally ignored, especially on Borboun St.
L
15 posted on
01/23/2015 7:25:40 AM PST by
Lurker
(Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
To: Svartalfiar
Apparently cigarette, cigar and pipe smoke were having an adverse impact on the city’s renown urine smell.
17 posted on
01/23/2015 7:28:17 AM PST by
Joe 6-pack
(Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
To: Svartalfiar
Well, they also banned the smoking of marijuana (minor mention in the article).
ROFLMAO
18 posted on
01/23/2015 7:33:16 AM PST by
logi_cal869
(-cynicus-)
To: Svartalfiar
Note to self: Consider New Orleans for next vacation.
20 posted on
01/23/2015 7:36:27 AM PST by
Drango
(A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
To: Svartalfiar
While waiting in your car at a drive up atm? Really? Ridiculouser and ridiculouser. Thanks there mz. commie organizer. So I’m guessin’ this is currently only Orleans Parish? Never mind the common everyday thugs, go after those evil smokers. Should make for an intersting Mardi Gras. Anti smoking revenues up when they bust out of towners who don’t know about the new “law”.
25 posted on
01/23/2015 7:49:20 AM PST by
rktman
(Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
To: Svartalfiar
Does this include smoking guns?
29 posted on
01/23/2015 8:02:19 AM PST by
Kirkwood
(Zombie Hunter)
To: Svartalfiar
There goes probably half of their tourism revenue.
30 posted on
01/23/2015 8:04:26 AM PST by
txmissy
To: Svartalfiar
Claiming there is no constitutional right to smoke, the New Orleans City Council unanimously voted to outlaw smoking...But if they are "gay married", that's constitutionally ok. Right.
33 posted on
01/23/2015 8:18:26 AM PST by
Albion Wilde
(It is better to offend a human being than to offend God.)
To: Svartalfiar
There’s no constitutional right to ban it either....
34 posted on
01/23/2015 8:19:14 AM PST by
Adder
(No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
To: Svartalfiar
So, after actually reading the ordinance, I think I've found an arguable loophole.
Smoking means inhaling, exhaling, burning, carrying, or possessing any lighted or heated cigar, cigarette, or pipe, or any other lighted or heated tobacco or plant product intended for inhalation, including hookahs and marijuana, whether natural or synthetic, in any manner or in any form. Smoking also includes the use of an electronic smoking device which creates an aerosol or vapor, in any manner or in any form, or the use of any oral smoking device for the purpose of circumventing the prohibition of smoking in this Article
So, most pipe/cigars are usually not inhaled, and as such, are not intended to be inhaled. So all of the bans on smoking don't apply most cigars/pipes. Indeed, the secondhand smoke definition actually makes this distinction, so the city can't argue puffing is included in the above definition of smoking. Also, the actual bans don't mention second-hand smoke, so that is ok. Since they
Secondhand smoke means smoke emitted from a lighted or heated cigar, cigarette, or pipe, or any other lighted or heated tobacco or plant product intended for inhalation, including hookahs and marijuana, whether natural or synthetic, in any manner or in any form, when the smoker is not inhaling, smoke emitted at the mouthpiece during puff drawing, and smoke exhaled by the smoker. Secondhand smoke also includes aerosol or vapor from the use of an electronic smoking device emitted, in any manner or in any form, when the smoker is not inhaling, at the mouthpiece during puff drawing, and when the smoker is exhaling.
To: Svartalfiar
If pot becomes legal, I wonder if that includes pot. /sarc.
Oh the irony.
Anyway, probably not because pot is medicinal and good for you.
38 posted on
01/23/2015 8:46:01 AM PST by
dhs12345
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