Posted on 01/18/2015 5:23:37 PM PST by JOHN W K
SEE: Cruz: Abolish the IRS
January 13th , 2015
”Republican Sen. Ted Cruz said Monday that Republicans should take advantage of their control of Congress to abolish the Internal Revenue Service.
“We need to pass fundamental tax reform making our tax code simpler, flatter, fairer,” he said Monday at Heritage Action’s 2015 conservative policy summit. ”And I’ll tell you, the single most important tax reform, we should abolish the IRS.”
What is discouraging is, the above article goes on to say that Senator Ted Cruz ”… acknowledged it’s not really possible to abolish the IRS or adopt a flat tax while Obama is in office …”
Seems to me even if Obama were to agree to adopting a “flat tax” on “incomes” (profits, gains, salaries, interest, wages, tips, etc.) which I believe is what Senator Cruz is in favor of, the IRS would have to remain intact and the American people would continue to suffer all the miseries connected with this hideous form of taxation.
Would Congress not remain in charge of defining what is and is not “taxable income”? Wouldn’t a flat tax in incomes continue to allow taxation to be used by our federal government as a weapon against political foes, and to silence free speech? Is a flat tax on “income” not intentionally designed to place an unequal tax burden on our most productive and hardworking citizens, who are then taxed directly on their earned wages which is then used by corrupted politicians to buy the votes of the unemployed and unproductive who have been made dependent upon “free government cheese”? Would a flat tax on incomes not continue to generate class warfare and divide American Citizens into countless factious groups, each of which attack each other and seek to benefit from this unequal form of direct taxation? And how about the billions of dollars wasted each year by America’s taxpayers and businesses to conform to its regulations and record keeping, and its mandatory divulgence of personal information? Is this not in itself a cause to reject this hideous and oppressive form of taxation?
Moving on, is it really true that it’s not possible to abolish the IRS as we know it and adopt a fairer system of federal taxation while “Obama is in office” as suggested by Senator Cruz? Seems to me that Article V of our Constitution provides a pathway which would remove Obama from an effort to close down the IRS as we know it and adopt real tax reform. But this procedure, sending an amendment to the states for ratification would require the Republican controlled House and Senate to be sincere about wanting real tax reform.
I fully agree with Senator Cruz that "Republicans should take advantage of their control of Congress to abolish the Internal Revenue Service". And this could be accomplished by the Republican controlled Congress sending the following constitutional amendment to the states for ratification!
The Fair Share Balanced Budget Amendment
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the sixteenth article of amendment, and require an annually balanced federal budget
“SECTION 1. The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money
NOTE: these words would return us to our founding fathers ORIGINAL TAX PLAN as they intended it to operate! And, they would remove the existing chains of taxation which now oppresses America‘s free enterprise system and robs the bread which working people have earned when selling their labor!
"SECTION 2. Congress ought not raise money by borrowing, but when the money arising from imposts duties and excise taxes are insufficient to meet the public exigencies, and Congress has raised money by borrowing during the course of a fiscal year, Congress shall then lay a direct tax at the beginning of the next fiscal year for an amount sufficient to extinguish the preceding fiscal year's deficit, and apply the revenue so raised to extinguishing said deficit."
NOTE: Congress is to raise its primary revenue from imposts and duties, [taxes at our water’s edge], and may also lay miscellaneous internal excise taxes on specifically chosen articles of consumption. But if Congress borrows and spends more than is brought in from imposts, duties and miscellaneous excise taxes during the course of a fiscal year, then, and only then, is the apportioned tax to be laid.
"SECTION 3. When Congress is required to lay a direct tax in accordance with Section 1 of this Article, the Secretary of the United States Treasury shall, in a timely manner, calculate each State's apportioned share of the total sum being raised by dividing its total population size by the total population of the united states and multiplying that figure by the total being raised by Congress, and then provide the various State Congressional Delegations with a Bill notifying their State’s Executive and Legislature of its share of the total tax being collected and a final date by which said tax shall be paid into the United States Treasury."
NOTE: our founder’s fair share formula to extinguish a deficit would be:
States’ population
---------------------------- X SUM TO BE RAISED = STATE’S FAIR SHARE
Total U.S. Population
This formula, as intended by our founding fathers, is to insure that those states who contribute the lion’s share of the tax are guaranteed a representation in Congress proportionately equal to their contribution, i.e., representation with a proportional financial obligation!
"SECTION 4. Each State shall be free to assume and pay its quota of the direct tax into the United States Treasury by a final date set by Congress, but if any State shall refuse or neglect to pay its quota, then Congress shall send forth its officers to assess and levy such State's proportion against the real property within the State with interest thereon at the rate of ((?)) per cent per annum, and against the individual owners of the taxable property. Provision shall be made for a 15% discount for those States paying their share by ((?))of the fiscal year in which the tax is laid, and a 10% discount for States paying by the final date set by Congress, such discount being to defray the States' cost of collection."
NOTE: This section respects the Tenth Amendment and allows each state to raise its share in its own chosen way in a time period set by Congress, but also allows the federal government to enter a state and collect the tax if a state is delinquent in meeting its obligation.
"SECTION 5. This Amendment to the Constitution, when ratified by the required number of States, shall take effect no later than (?) years after the required number of States have ratified it.
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The only question remaining is, is our Republican controlled Congress sincere about real tax reform and removing Obama from the equation?
JWK
“…..with all these blessings, what more is necessary to make us a happy and a prosperous people? Still one thing more, fellow-citizens—a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities“. Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address
LOL!
Getting rid of the IRS is not as crazy today as it was several year ago! Sounds good to me!
But realistically speaking, so close but still so far.
The IRS is nothing but the Gestapo wing of the Democrat-Communist Party and a malignant cancer of an out-of-control and lawless federal government. They can harass, steal, imprison or destroy you with impunity. It must be obliterated into a billion pieces.
Add Obamacare to that and everyone I’ll be ecstatically happy
“We need to pass fundamental tax reform making our tax code simpler, flatter, fairer,” he said Monday at Heritage Action’s 2015 conservative policy summit. ”And I’ll tell you, the single most important tax reform, we should abolish the IRS.”
Add Obamacare to that and everyone will be ecstatically happy
Cut every line item in the budget by 25% with the exception of the military. Each year that number will decrease by 10% until every line item in the budget is reviewed and voted on with a 2/3 majority across both houses.
This should be done during non-presidential election years, maybe even by the same electoral vote method.
Yeah, it would be hard to make it a non-partisan office, but it would be a considerable improvement over a hyperpartisan non-accountable IRS.
“if Obama were to agree to adopting a “flat tax” on “incomes” (profits, gains, salaries, interest, wages, tips, etc.) which I believe is what Senator Cruz is in favor of, the IRS would have to remain intact”
NOt really, I think the Russians have a 12% flat tax on income. Taken out payroll deduction, no need to even file. Once in a lifetime mortgage deduction is the only time you need to file.
But id prefer no taxes except a sales tax. You don’t spend, you don’t pay. That combined with a tariff system.
Senator Cruz needs to add an additional paragraph of what will replace the IRS. No matter what simplification of the tax code that is made, there still must be a mechanism to fund the federal government.
Enforcement of that law must by its very nature be a federal responsibility. It has to be to stop tax evaders.
The bottom line is that the IRS cannot be abolished. But it can be so thoroughly reconstructed that it will stop being an oppressive leviathan. Nobody will ever love the beast, but kept in its cage, it will at least be tolerable.
We need Ted Cruz for President in the worst way.
The moment the federal reserve acts of 1913 became law, the US became a vassal state. Overnight the Federal Government morphed into the Sheriff of Nottingham.
Abolish the IRS.
How often has that slogan been repeated without any result?
None will come of it, this time. Just bluster and big talk.
Agreed, This would do two very important things. The terror of the individual citizen having the einsatzgrouppen coming after them if they step out of line cold no longer be used as a club to bludgeon them into submission and the information harvested through the need for income determination would no longer need to be given to those who wish to use it against their political enemies.
i.e. freedom would expand
I would favor a three tiered approach: income tax, property tax and sales tax.
Income taxes on payroll and investment income. Federal property tax to cover infrastructure related programs and a sales tax for commerce related programs.
All fixed rates, very simple to administer, and “fair” since that evil 1%er will pay big numbers on the $10M home, new Benz and caviar. And the middle class will only pay on the $100k home, new Honda and steaks for the grill.
I think it was interesting that last week GA senators David Perdue and Johnny Isakson presented a bill to adopt the fair tax to the Senate. Frankly I was shocked. I didn’t think Isakson even knew what the Fair Tax was. It may be that there’s a game afoot to get rid of the IRS. They keep cutting IRS funding. It definitely needs to go.
As often as we hear: "We're going to take America back".
And it's always just the opposite result.
This guy’s the one.
Section 3 is EXACTLY the way the Federal government is to funded if using anything other than tariffs and fees.
No direct federal reach into the citizens wallets.
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