Posted on 01/05/2015 3:11:01 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Im an older O.C. divorcé with a young Filipino wife I met on the Internet, and I know what youre thinking. Cant say I blame you. But youre wrong.
Im pouring drinks for my guests when the police arrive. Its 3 p.m. on a Saturday and were hosting a friends baby shower in our open garage. The two officers survey the scene carefully before striding toward me with bad news. We got a complaint from your neighbor, one of the officers says with a nod.
After they sort it out and determine were not committing any crimes or posing a public nuisance, I approach the neighbor, a woman in her 60s who has lived in this quiet Los Alamitos townhome complex for many years. Shes not a bad person, but shes unaccustomed to seeing garage parties here, especially attended by large numbers of dark-skinned people eating pigs roasted whole on a spit.
Your personal life is so messed up, she informs me.
In a way, I appreciate her honesty. And I understand her reaction. Im a 63-year-old white male married to a beautiful woman from the Philippines more than three decades my junior. We met on an Internet dating site aimed at fostering international marriages. My neighbor is expressing openly what others convey with scornful stares. But then, thats just one of the hazards of living in Orange County with a mail-order bride.
I havent always raised the eyebrows of my neighbors. Once upon a time, I too fell well within the cultural norms of America and Orange County. Married to a woman roughly my own age with a similar ethnic background, we had two childrena boy and a girlwhose presence in our household hardly warranted dramatic attention. About the most exotic island we ever visited was Santa Catalina. And, like most couples living the suburban dream, we assumed it all would last forever.
Then everything fell apart.
To be honest, it was my fault. Im not proud of this, but one day I awoke to the realization that I had become the embodiment of an American stereotype: the middle-aged husband who imagines something better over the next ridge. Unfortunately, it was not a passing fancy but, increasingly, the dominant preoccupation of my life, ultimately leading me into the bottomless pit of an extramarital affair. Gradually, of course, my marriage unraveled until the ignominious afternoon when my wife, overhearing a hushed telephone conversation between me and my paramour, rightly sent me packing.
My last day in the house is etched into memory as if it had happened this morning: Me standing forlornly in the front yard as she screeched off in her car. Later I sat in a nearby park feeling a whole new kind of emptiness as I contemplated what was to come. By evening Id been exiled to the spare bedroom of my brothers home in La Palma.
Because my former wife is a forgiving person, the end of our 15-year union was not as acrimonious as some. But for me it was the beginning of a long, dark journey into self-doubt and recrimination that took years to overcome.
When I finally did emerge, I was a different man. I had learned late in life a painful lesson regarding family and commitment. For a while I held my own counsel, tenderly licking my wounds. Then I tentatively started testing the wind.
What I found was that, in the time Id been out of circulation, relations between the genders had changed. In this post-feminist age, many women had priorities other than finding the man of their dreams. As a child of the 60s, I certainly understood and appreciated their increasing independence. But the pendulum had swung so far that almost every man I knew desired a committed relationship, and almost every woman, well, wasnt so sure.
So I wandered without a compass in the dating desert. Casual encounters certainly werent hard to find. But anything more serious seemed out of reach, a reality that left me disheartened.
For a while I stuck it out, chalking up a string of failed flings. One fellow divorcée, a woman in her 50s, ultimately decided that shed rather be single. And a younger girlfriend eventually departed to travel in Australia. Of course, it occurred to me thenas it does nowthat maybe men in general didnt leave them uninspired. Maybe it was me.
I dont remember specifically when it first occurred to me to look elsewhere for a mate. Because I was deeply frustrated by my dating experiences in America, I one night impulsively did an Internet search for Asian women and up popped filipinaheart.com. Aimed at fostering long-term relationships between Western men and Filipino women, the site allowed any man willing to pay a modest fee to advertise, respond to womens ads, or engage in live video chats.
Initially, I admit, it all felt strange. Then I began noticing the stunning friendliness of the women I found there. More important was their willingnessno, eagernessto commit to someone like me.
It was as if I had been magically transformed from an invisible older man into a rock star whose company women craved. Of course that appealed to my ego. On a deeper level, though, it appealed to my need for stability in a world in which the love I wanted seemed impossible to find. Here was a culture in which women seemed to have traditional values, were open to matrimony, and even dreamed of blissful lives in American suburbs. I understood that part of their incentive was economic. But marriage has always had an economic component; throughout most of historycertainly in America, and especially in the Third Worldpart of what seals the deal is the perception, and sometimes the reality, that two can live better than one. What stood out here was that the Filipino women actually were looking for something I could providea better life in the U.S.
Still, the online flirting began as a lark. I started spending evenings on the website chatting with interesting women. Some were obviously looking for handouts; I quickly learned to ignore anyone mentioning sick relatives with unpaid hospital bills in the first conversation. Most, however, seemed like decent folk with good family values, honest about what they were seeking.
My search gradually narrowed during the next several months. One night, glancing at a chat box on my screen, I saw the image of a young woman resting her head on a desk at what looked like an Internet café. What got my attention was that she wasnt trying to get my attention. And so our conversation began.
What impressed me immediately about Ivy, then almost 24 to my 57, were her detailed responses to the questions I posed. Rereading them now, Im struck by the directness of our initial emails. Im looking for someone who will stay with me for the rest of my life, I confessed barely two weeks into the talk.
The next day came her reply. David, we have to realize that love is not enough to make a relationship work; we need trust, respect, time, effort, and total commitment I believe you can fall in love after you marry because we should not let passion but wisdom decide.
Part of me thought it was crazy to even consider someone so young. There were 33 years between us; had I completely lost my mind? What would my friends and family think? I raised the issue with Ivy on several occasions. You say that I am young, she responded, but I am fixed in my mind and know what I want. Dont worry about the age gap because it doesnt matter; most important is that I meet a real person who can be trusted and loved.
At times I wondered whether I was just being played. But as the discourse continued, her message remained consistent. And so I decided to go find out.
If you were to put a map of the Philippines on a wall and throw darts at it, the chances of one sticking anywhere close to Caridad would be minuscule. That is, of course, unless you happened to be an excellent dart thrower and know exactly where it is, which few peopleeven in the Philippinesdo. Like them, I had never heard of the thatched-hut village on Siargao Island. In fact, I had never heard of Siargao, a remote tear-shaped spot of land comprising about 170 square miles off the eastern coast of Mindanao, a region known among other things for its nascent Muslim insurgency. Fortunately, Ivys home island is more famous for its excellent surfing, large mangrove forests, and gorgeous white-sand beaches. When the time came for us to meet, though, I had some serious travel planning to do.
Heres how it shook out: a 16-hour plane ride to Manila, followed by a shorter flight to Cebu, then an overnight ferry ride to a small city where she met me with a chaperoning cousin in tow. Before exchanging even a dozen words, the three of us had boarded a boat laden with pigs and bananas for the three-hour trip to the island.
I cant honestly say it was love at first sight. The truth is that Ivy, so effusive in her emails, was too shy in person to even look me in the eye, supporting my hunch that people who meet online often are less bold when face to face. Her cousin graciously took up the slack during awkward lulls in conversation. But as we approached the pristine shore of the beautiful place where she was born, the look of the world began to change.
The first thing I noticed about Caridad, one of several rural villages on the island and home to about 1,800 souls, was its multitude of children. They were everywhere, playing amid water buffalo-drawn carts. Nobody seemed overly concerned with where each child belonged. When they got hungry, they knocked on a door and were fed; it was simple as that. Several, in fact, were doing just that at Ivys home when we arrived.
So, her mother inquired, getting right to the point in halting English after showing me a seat, you want to marry my daughter.
The truth is, we hadnt made any such plans. Well, I responded, not wanting to be disagreeable, what would you think of that?
It was then that I noticed the crowd outside, perhaps 30 people of all ages grinning at me through open windows and doors. Who are they? I whispered to Ivy.
I wasnt prepared for her response: Theyve never seen a foreigner up this close.
The rest of the conversation passed in a whirl. What were my goals? Where did I live? Who were my relatives? What did I do? Andmy favoritewhat had gone wrong in my first marriage that would be fixed this time around?
The questions, all from Mom with Dad and several relatives looking on, were merciless. As much as they made me squirm, however, they also commanded respect; here was a family that took seriously the admonition to protect its own.
I must have passed muster because Ivy, referred to locally as black beauty because of her lovely dark skin, eventually was allowed to accompany me alone on a stroll. We werent alone for long, though; on the beach we encountered a second round of questioning, this time from a large group of smiling locals represented by a teacher who conveyed their inquisition in English. Obviously, the town was not inclined to let one of its favorite daughtersor any of its daughtersbe whisked away by just anyone, or without serious scrutiny.
The next morning, safely ensconced in a small bedroom with Mom, Dad, Ivy, and her three siblings, I was awakened at 6 by a bloodcurdling scream, the cry of one of her fathers pigs giving its life for some crazy visiting foreignerme. That afternoon the family, along with the majority of its neighbors, enjoyed a feast of lechon, the roasted pork traditionally offered only on the most special occasions.
In truth, this was the beginningnot the endof our discussions about the future. While already an adult who had left home and finished college, Ivy was required by Filipino custom to get her parents blessing before proceeding further. She did, and I made several more trips to the Philippines during the next two years of courtship.
Once I sat behind Ivy on her fathers motorcycle as she gave me a tour of the island. During that ride, with the smell of the ocean and her long black hair streaming back across my face, I believe I fell in love. Later, on a stretch of white sand once owned by her grandfather, we built a crude wooden shelter with a heart carved into its ceiling. And finally, at the end of a long pier called Cloud 9, I asked Ivy to be my wife.
On Feb. 3, 2008, she arrived at Los Angeles International Airport, an event followed within minutes by a loud bang. Thats because, driving home on the 405 Freeway, I couldnt help paying more attention to the lovely young woman beside me than to the car in front of us. It stopped and we didnt. So my fiancée got her first glimpse of Orange County from the cab of a lumbering tow truck dragging my crumpled Mazda behind.
Despite this inauspicious beginning, we were married two months later.
I vividly remember Ivys first impressions. She had never seen streets so wide; for a time, she was afraid to cross. Operating a washing machine and microwave were skills she had to acquire. And, accustomed to the continuous sounds of crowing roosters, barking dogs, and squealing children, her most difficult adjustment was to the pervasive silence surrounding our house.
Its as if we have no neighbors, my wife often complained.
We filled that silence with friends much like us. In the absence of the large family and community structures of the Philippines, we have created a substitute family here in the wilderness of America. That hasnt been difficult given the West Coasts proliferation of Filipino Americans, including nearly 700,000 in Southern California, with enclaves in Anaheim, Cerritos, Carson, and Long Beach.
Consisting mostly of American men with younger Filipino wives and, increasingly, the children they have produced, our groupwhich began when some of the women connected on the Internethas evolved into an active, though informal, association with frequent gatherings at various homes.
Today Ivy and I probably know more than 100 mixed couples scattered throughout Southern California, including many in Orange County. Like us, most met online. Many also have age gaps, though not always as great as ours. And almost all of the couples, at one time or another, have been misunderstood by their peers.
Like any family, this one has its share of squabbles. But it also forms the core of our social life, functioning much like Ivys village back home. Within this circle we celebrate holidays, baptisms, birthdays, and baby showers. When one woman has a baby, the others take her food. And on the rare occasions that tragedy strikes, we grieve with them as one.
We are acutely aware, of course, that others outside our group often look at us askance. We have theories as to why, but mine boils down to this: They dont consider us legitimate. In a society that valuesno, practically inventedlove as the only valid basis for marriage, anything even suggesting other motives is suspect. And though online dating has become increasingly popular, many still dont approve of relationships that seem arranged. Theres a reason some people persist in calling them mail-order brides, a term most of us find deeply offensive. True, some men and women have literally found their mates in catalogs, but that process bears little resemblance to the reality we know.
For starters, U.S. immigration law prohibits bringing a foreign fiancée to America without proof that youve actually met. More to the point, modern transportation and the advent of the Internet have put such relationships well within reach. Today its not only possible, but practical, to get to know someone intimately across several continents.
Im not saying there arent transgressions. Everyone has heard of cases in which women imported from abroad have been seriously abused. Or, conversely, the women pretended love just to sidestep immigration laws or get a green card. I believe those are the exception rather than the rule. Most transnational couples we know enjoy real relationships marked by genuine affection. And, while establishing economic security is certainly a motive for many women from underdeveloped countries, theres evidence that the resulting unions often succeed. (See Page 92.)
For Ivy and me, of course, its all very personal. Like any couple, weve had ups and downs. Many of our disagreements turn out to be misunderstandings caused by the language barrier. And contrasting cultural backgrounds occasionally become a source of conflict.
For the most part, though, I find the differences appealing, and each day still seems new. That has been especially true since the birth of our son in November 2010. As children will, Isaac has brought whole new dimensions to our lives. We are doting parents, to be sure. But our baby also seems to have conferred new levels of acceptance and respect among doubters in ways we never foresaw.
One of the many who has come around is my daughter, now 27. She never harbored moral or ethical objections to the marriage. But, having inhaled generous whiffs of local wisdom that it could never survive, she did have concerns for her fathers future, serious enough to create some reticence about meeting his new bride. Im just not ready, she told me several times for about a year.
Though she eventually did visit us, I could tell she still had her doubts.Then along came Isaac and the needle gently shifted. Here, apparently, was evidence that we intended to see this thing through. My skeptical daughter fell in love with her little brother. And even her mommy former spouseis now Isaacs gushing godmother.
All of which brings us to the present. At last, after some dark decades, I am once again part of a happy American family.Ivy and I have lots of dreams; later this year we hope to take Isaac on his first visit to the Philippines, and one day wed like to build a little beach house on that gorgeous stretch of white sand.
Wed also like to stop being a nuisance to our Orange County neighbors. To that end we have a plan. This month Ivy and I will be celebrating our fourth anniversary. There will be another party with lots of foreign-born friends, an open garage and, yes, a big roasted pig on the table.
This time, however, we will do things differently. First I will call the police to assure them of our complete intention to follow the law. Then well print up a batch of invitations for some of our neighbors. We sincerely hope theyll come.
Just because foreign brides may appear exotically sexy and a man's wet dream doesn't mean they're sex slaves and cater to a man's purient interests.
Women that know what they want (a standard among Filipina's) are not cupie dolls catering to the furtherance of an old man's dirtiness, rather ... she is more likely to instill if it wasn't there in the beginning, or remind a man ... a woman is an honorable human being and you will treat her with respect.
She was to work tomorrow
then a phone call changed it to Wednesday
then another phone call brought it back to tomorrow
So I asked,
"You mean you were supposed to work tomorrow, but then it was changed to Wednesday and now you're going to work tomorrow ?
YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO ME !!!
I cowered and slunk away ... there's no defense
ANY occasion that warrants a meal (kill the pig), brings people from far and wide ... because you have food and it is expected of you to share
You don't have to know the people nor be formally invited .... people just show up and eat.
My daughter is living in Nicaragua and it is funny, on Nic buses if it is empty the next person on the bus is compelled to sit with you so you wont be alone during the trip.
What a cool, human thing to do
It is a very different way from cold New England.
45 posts - and you missed an adjective
Many of those Catholic Filipinas marry Protestant men or other men of different denominations.
It doesn’t have to be Catholic exclusive.
The feminist cancerious plight is one of the main reasons why everything in this country and society is so messed up, the grass wasn’t greener on the other side and all of us have to suffer for it, thank God the old gaurd of feminism is going the way of the dinosaurs and the younger generation does not have the same zeal, they don’t know what they want.
Thank God that some in the newer generation see the light.
You are correct sir. Anyone who thinks Filipinas are nothing more than sex pots, out to fulfill all the sexual desires of a man, obviously never had a good one. Some may have had bar girls. Not the same at all. Mine lets me know if I don't show her the respect she deserves, but she shows me respect too. It is a team effort.
Contrasted with your long-term marriage, I know a guy that is on his fifth Filipino wife! He views it as a mutual “using you” thing - he gets great sex and good food, and they get a green card after so many years. (”I figure it costs about $30k for each one - like leasing a car”)
I would say he is messed up, but they also have a “family reunion” where his son (first wife) and all the other wives get together for a picnic once a year. So - while messed up - it sounds like they all like each other!?
I adopted a hobby for the first time in my life
A friend's father died and he had started a 'you carve it yourself for about two years' model of the HMS BOUNTY (Mutiny Of, fame) and Dianne asked if I wanted to finish it.
SURE, says I (an me mite, Jim 'Awkins..)
Liza is happy I am out of the way while she cleans the house and cleans the house and cleans the house during these winter days
BTW, eat'cher'heart out, Mark ... it's 12F this morning
My original critique was premised on the assumption, "where a woman embraces American style feminism," which makes your observation that I opined, American women are so terrible a gross mischaracterization. My argument with Gloria Steinem is not with Sarah Palin.
Yet, you marginalize my point by attacking me, rather than appreciating that the incorporation of "American style feminism" into the mainstream makes women from a different cultural milieu more attractive on balance. I am old enough to know that men did not always prefer to "Check out" of the pursuit of marriage.
So I guess American women over 50 are just conveniently out of the picture for older American men, because they are not as mature as 30 year old Filipina women? A very convenient way to rationalize leaving an older wife and starting again with someone 25 years younger.
Well, hey...what would you do with all that leftover pig, anyway?
MY connection to an Asian woman (and her age didn't matter in the beginning ... but only younger ones were on the site I looked), stems from my time in KOREA in '65 / '66
I seemed to be the only one in my barracks that didn't refer to the Koreans as gooks ... I didn't think it was funny to flick a drunken cigarette on top of a thatched roof .. I was pleasantly received by 'mamasan and papasan' when 'dating' my yobo.
I turned 18 while in Korea
After 21 years of marriage, my first wife died of cancer.
I was a mess for 2 years and I went to the internet after that time to 'see what I could see' ... half hoping for purient vicarious sex ... half hoping for a real love
Got the latter (THANK you, Lord)
I didn't relate well with ANY woman following my wife's death ... NONE of you made sense and I misread every signal ... I withdrew ... you weren't so kind and understanding ... nor patient ...
Once a relationship started between Liza and me ... what difference does it make who I love ?
Or who loves me ?
I'm not so sure American women thought I was a "catch", but a third world woman, hard working since 15, away from home, ignoring her own life and supporting her mama and papa was happy to meet a guy that talked with her and explored other areas of consciousness besides work
She was a 39 year old virgin when we married in March of 2010
It's not all it's cracked up to be and has still some repercussions.
Sorry if you feel you were left out of the loop ... perhaps you work too much
ping to #118
Brings back memories of my Navy days. There was a good ol' country boy machinist's mate aboard my ship who was an early riser. He'd set up his coffee in the machine shop two decks below our berthing compartment and proceed to blast "Wabash Cannonball" so loud you'd have thought it was coming from the next rack! Bad enough, but at 0500 hours? I hated that song for 20 years thereafter.
Of course, now it's nostalgia from half-a-hundred years ago and brings a little smile!
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