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How do we start serving right after an election ?
self, with help from commentator influence | December 16, 2014 | knarf

Posted on 12/16/2014 10:41:20 AM PST by knarf

Listening to the radio yesterday, it was stated that the United States is the only nation whose newly elected officials do not start serving immediately after an election, but waits almost three months.


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And I have often considered the time it takes to do anything, especially in politics and why DON'T we start serving immediately following an election ?

It was explained (Mark Stein, BTW) that perhap in the beginning men had to get on horses and brave winter weather etc., in order to get to Washington ... which seems about right

But those days are done

How can we initiate the change to start serving the next day, or week or something ?

1 posted on 12/16/2014 10:41:20 AM PST by knarf
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To: knarf

I agree that’s how it should be.


2 posted on 12/16/2014 10:44:18 AM PST by Cubs Fan (Victim status-- way more addictive than any drug)
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To: knarf
The months-long delay is a hold-over from the old horse and buggy days, when it actually did takes weeks and months for Congressmen and Senators to travel back and forth from Washington to their respective home districts and states.

I agree--there should be a brief sessions after the election to close out any old business, and then adjourn for the new Congress to take over after the holidays.

3 posted on 12/16/2014 10:44:48 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: knarf

I say congress should shut down for 1 month. The election should be the first week of that recess and when congress returns it should be the new congress.

The whole idea of freshmen and Seniors needs to go as well.


4 posted on 12/16/2014 10:44:50 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: knarf

Normal people get laid off and security walks them out of the building with all their desk stuff in a box. That needs to happen to politicians who have lost their mandate to rule over us.


5 posted on 12/16/2014 10:45:19 AM PST by thorvaldr
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To: thorvaldr; All
All good comments ... now how do we get this thing rolling ?

Get a rep to write a bill ?

Maybe WE can write the bill and submit it to every blood and guts politician we know

6 posted on 12/16/2014 10:47:32 AM PST by knarf
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To: knarf

It’s because of the presidential election. That one needs time to go from the popular/ technically meaningless vote to the electoral college/ actually chooses a president vote, with time to deal with potential tie-breaking procedures/ other strange political junk before the president actually gets inaugurated. All the other offices take their schedule from that.


7 posted on 12/16/2014 10:48:32 AM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: knarf; Lazamataz; editor-surveyor

ping


8 posted on 12/16/2014 10:48:49 AM PST by knarf
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To: knarf

use to be the presidential inauguration was in March. Abe Lincoln for instance. Gave the South three months to “source” armories. And for the radicals to set up the bait at Sumter.

Not like a parliament change. Hence the shenanigans of the Lame Duck senate and house, and prez for that matter.

Shameful.

Especially the non-vote on Cruz’s point of order. A simple up or down vote in support or not of a non-Constitutional power grab by the executive branch. That is to say— to do their job the Oath of Office requires to DEFEND the Constitution. And for our military “against all enemies, foreign AND domestic”.


9 posted on 12/16/2014 10:50:21 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: cripplecreek

Everyone needs to read the info at

definingthemachine.com

“freshman” walk in and are told they owe “the party” 6 figures in political donations,
and they have to immediately start fund raising to
“pay it back”.

The effect is to get them immediately beholden to the donors.


10 posted on 12/16/2014 10:50:28 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: thorvaldr

The only Person I want to “rule” over me is my Lord and Savior.


11 posted on 12/16/2014 10:51:20 AM PST by freeonefrom (God bless America and our troops.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Sure. Texas’ legislature meets only every 2 years. Now that is a Republic.


12 posted on 12/16/2014 10:51:28 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: discostu
You know, that may be the practice that has seemingly evolved into law, but maybe the winner (no matter how close and no matter the party) should take office while the vote is contested.

Consider the Bush/Gore debacle

Bush could have moved in on November 5 (or whatever day it was) and let the counts and re-counts happen

If he had lost, we kick him out ... but until then ... the winner goes in.

13 posted on 12/16/2014 10:52:07 AM PST by knarf
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You can’t take the office while the vote is contested, especially because that vote isn’t even the one that counts. The EC vote is the one that actually picks the election, the people don’t even have to vote, state legislatures could direct appoint their EC representatives without bothering to ask the people anything (and in fact some have). Unless you want to ditch the EC there MUST be a delay.


14 posted on 12/16/2014 10:56:13 AM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: knarf
Found THIS on the internet;

How to Write a Bill

Once you've found an interesting and relevant topic on which to write your bill and have done the necessary research, the next step is actually getting your bill ready for discussion in committee. A PMC bill should have three parts:

Preamble: This section should provide your reasons for the necessity of your bill. Why is your topic something that should be addressed by the government? This section's clauses should always begin with a "Whereas..."

Body: This section should be separated into sections and subsections. Each proposed idea for the implementation of the bill should be a section. Subsections should be used to provide further detail and clarification (definitions, etc.) for their appropriate bill sections.

Enactment Clause: This is the final section of the bill (and can be labeled as a section as normal). EACH BILL MUST HAVE AN ENACTMENT CLAUSE!! The enactment clause tells your fellow congressmen when your bill will take effect if passed. It may specify a future date (September 30, 2005) or a certain number of days following the passage of the bill (60 days after passage). Enactment dates within 30 days of passage are used for EMERGENCY legislation only. Enactment dates more than 90 days after passage is used for most legislation and is the enactment period for normal legislation.


I'm going to really try to think about this and compose something

I ain't that politically astute, so I'll accept any and all help

15 posted on 12/16/2014 10:57:18 AM PST by knarf
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To: freeonefrom

“The only Person I want to “rule” over me is my Lord and Savior.”

So you don’t like “rule”, would you prefer “enforce their will over every aspect of your life with the threat of violence”?


16 posted on 12/16/2014 10:58:01 AM PST by thorvaldr
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To: MrB

1 thing I would do is require US Representatives and Senators to spend a certain amount of time every year sitting in the state legislatures listening and working with the states they’re supposed to represent.


17 posted on 12/16/2014 11:00:14 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: cripplecreek

That would have to be the case if the legislature elected the Senators instead of them being directly elected.


18 posted on 12/16/2014 11:02:10 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: discostu

OK ... forgot about that. but what prevents the EC from acting the next day ?


19 posted on 12/16/2014 11:04:18 AM PST by knarf
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To: knarf
All good comments ... now how do we get this thing rolling ? Get a rep to write a bill ?

The dates that the President's and Congress's terms start are written in the Constitution (20th Amendment), so those dates could be changed only by amending the Constitution. (Ironically, the 20th Amendment shortened the lame duck period, which was much longer under the original Constitution.)

20 posted on 12/16/2014 11:06:33 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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