Posted on 09/27/2014 3:49:17 AM PDT by Citizen Zed
To find out, scientists turned to chemistry. Here on Earth, about one in every 3,000 molecules of water is made with a deuterium atom instead of a hydrogen atom.
A deuterium atom is similar to a hydrogen atom except that its nucleus contains a proton and a neutron, instead of a lone proton. (Both atoms also contain a single electron.) That makes deuterium twice as heavy as hydrogen, which is why water molecules made with deuterium atoms (HDO) are known as “heavy water.”
At the time that our sun was born, the ratio of deuterium to hydrogen throughout the universe was about 1 deuterium molecule to every 100,000 hydrogen molecules. But for water in the solar system, the proportion is significantly higher.
Water with a high deuterium content can only form under specific conditions. The environment needs to be very cold, and there needs to be enough energy to power the reaction that binds hydrogen, deuterium and oxygen. Over the past several decades, researchers have come up with two possible — and competing — explanations of how this heavy water took up residence in our solar system.
The first is that it came from interstellar water ice that formed in the huge cloud of gas that gave birth to our sun and the solar system. Stellar nurseries can be found throughout the universe, and they are rich in both heavy water and regular water (H20), the researchers said.
The second possibility is that the violence and energy of star birth ripped apart that interstellar water, and its building blocks got reprocessed within the protoplanetary disk that would eventually coalesce into the planets and other heavenly bodies.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
Like embryonic fluid, will be placed on another planet in the end...smile
“And you know this how, Deborah?”
It’s fairly simple. We use time machines to look at the compositon of those nebulae of hydrogen and deuterium as they actually existed 4-6 billion years ago and earlier.
I have no attitude, nor do I have any hatred towards a Supreme Being.
There are some theologians who champion ideas like this what is commonly called old earth creationism. It posits that the universe scale we believe we see today is the scale that actually is, rather than something that changed too as spiritually significant events went on within it. Hugh Ross is one of its more famous voices. I give that the Scottish verdict: not proven. (I suggest an equal opportunity skepticism of young-earth scientific creationism, too. To make science go, you need a universe that you can trust to have been constant in behavior over the time period in question. There would be no way to prove that the deluge did this, that, or the other specific thing beyond the accounts of it.)
You are poor, blind, and naked, and I hope I offended you enough to take a fresh look in the mirror.
The love of God shows itself in something that is neither indulging, nor does it stop at civility.
The bible says that friendship with the world (the sinful system of vain human speculation) is hatred towards God.
Keep in mind that story-telling is a VERY effective sales pitch. When people read and believe a bunch of stories, they abandon all logic.
“the universe scale we believe we see today”
That is doubletalk which does nothing to change the plain fact we can and do obtain relatively accurate measures of the time and space we inhabit and inhabited in the past.
Ok, fine...but what about the chicken and the egg?
“At the time that our sun was born”
Sounds like the beginning of a fairy tale.
You use the word conjecture inappropriately. Here is an appropriate use:
Your statement denigrating the researcher’s efforts and achievement is based on conjecture.
2 Peter 3:5: “...and the earth was formed out of water and by water....”
The sun came first in neither Genesis nor the “Big Bang” theory.
Actually John 1 describes what existed before Genesis
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God”
“In the Beginning was the Word”
Who can touch feel or see “the Word”? With human senses we only see the effects.
Scientists can and do debate about which elements came when and from where, but none of them has scientifically described from where and when came “the Word” - much less why - which is more in the philosophical realm.
“The Word” - some form of information - triggered the chaos described in Genesis to begin organizing into design, which then spun off into more and more intricate design (call that evolution if you will).
However information cannot evolve from chaos. There must be a stimulus.
3/4 of mankind believe in a purposeful intelligence as that stimulus, a Creator who can be described as “the Word”. The bearer of Light.
John 1 King James Version (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
I believe there have been some theories of how light can or could have become matter - acting in accordance with an inherent design purpose or simply as an escaped message?
Excuse ramblings, not a scientist here
You're peeking in my windows again, aren't you?
Not only is the water we drink really really old, the dinosaurs pee’d in it
Not a drop of water has been created or destroyed, it may have changed form and shape and location but it has been with us from creation
Drink!
I refuse to drink used water. I always create my own.
Laz, you may be a recycler but you are not a Creator ....
Now pull down your window blinds! :-)
Recycled...
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