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Selfishness and Preparedness: Why Prepare?
SHTF Plan ^ | 9/10/14 | Jim Roberts

Posted on 09/10/2014 8:48:17 PM PDT by Kartographer

Recently, a small firestorm was ignited by Valerie Lucus-McEwen, a government Emergency Management employee, who had the temerity to accuse preparedness types of “selfishness.” While your immediate reaction may be – as mine certainly was – “Are people really and truly this thoughtless?” – this question does deserve a proper answer, particularly as those who are easily influenced by the leftist media, or who believe the state really and actually is the omniscient, omnipotent savior of our personal and corporate lives, are actually asking this question. So, let’s examine the issue:

First, many preparedness types have, as part of their goal, the intent of helping neighbors and family who were unable – or unwilling – to prepare. In my own case, part of what I have in mind is assisting a large group of mentally retarded and Down’s syndrome children that my church has taken under its wing. (A group the state would do no more than “warehouse” if it were under their direction!). Not all preppers feel this way, but I would bet my bottom can of stored tuna fish there is an exceedingly large percentage of preparedness types who feel similarly.

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To: MrB

And being prepared is being considerate. Preppers would not be a burden on others. The unprepared would be a burden on others.


41 posted on 09/11/2014 7:46:55 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Kartographer

My FRiend, it is UNselfish to not make yourself dependent on others in a crisis.

One has a serious choice in life that is all inclusive; be a liability, or be an asset.

When the worst happens, liabilities must be eliminated whilst assets must be preserved.


42 posted on 09/11/2014 8:15:27 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (quod est Latine morositate)
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To: Iron Munro

43 posted on 09/11/2014 8:45:22 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Oorang

Yes and there is nothing selfish about preparing to take care of yourself and your family members. For most people that’s about all they can do anyway. We are not preparing to take care of the rest of the public. They have had the same time and opportunity to prep as we all have.


44 posted on 09/11/2014 8:45:47 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kartographer

I would be willing to part with some rounds for the very needy.


45 posted on 09/11/2014 9:02:31 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; Kartographer; JRandomFreeper; All
“When it comes to survivalists — always be prepared, but only in moderation.”

That comment means nothing, as “in moderation” has a different definition to each person, plus putting a limit on how much a person could prepare, is ridiculous.

A “prepper” is a person who prepares for an emergency - simple. It's a “modern” term for an older term of “survivalist”. Hurricanes were a definite threat where I lived, and I stayed prepared for no electricity. Those preps were there for any other emergency that might happen.

I don't have to depend on any outside agency to provide me with anything.

Plus, all of us paid for the finest prepper retreat in the world. It's across the street from the White House and is underground. Plenty of everything, including an operating room and a surgeon. It is to save the life of Obama and family. I am as important as he is, so I used my own money to save my own life.

If anyone says we shouldn't prepare, then why did we prepare to save the life of Obama? That person complaining, paid for Obama’s safe place. Let him/her complain to the government for preparing to save his life. Homeland Security should dump on Obama for all the provisions he has. They listed, at one time, that preppers were potential domestic terrorists. What does that make Obama with all his preps that are grander than ours?

46 posted on 09/11/2014 9:46:33 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Don’t blame it all on the woman. It takes two to tango. What decent wife wants a man who can’t keep his pants zipped. No child should grow up in that environment.


47 posted on 09/11/2014 11:41:30 AM PDT by bgill
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To: laplata
there should be a voluntary exchange, and for those that are not prepared, there should be some type of assistance rendered by the one who has not prepared (it could be cooking, gardening; perhaps doing guard duty or carpentry).

Those who haven't prepared who become burdens upon society are likely to do a very poor job of voluntary exchange of work. They have no concept of work. They want nothing to do with that four letter word. It's that EBT crowd and many in the kubayah crowd. Do we really want them doing guard duty?

48 posted on 09/11/2014 11:45:48 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Iron Munro
Which likely republican candidates for president will have the guts, on the first day in office, to rip socialist idiots like Valerie Lucus-McEwen out of influential government positions and send them packing back to the liberal looney bins where they received their busy-work degrees?

Ted Cruz. Probably none of the rest. I'm voting for Ted, otherwise known as Reagan 2.0.

49 posted on 09/11/2014 12:19:17 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: bgill
...Don’t blame it all on the woman. It takes two to tango. What decent wife wants a man who can’t keep his pants zipped. No child should grow up in that environment...

And yet the consequences fall mostly upon the woman (Actually the offspring AND the woman).

Thus she has more to lose and should act according to that reality.

50 posted on 09/11/2014 12:22:06 PM PDT by T-Bone Texan (The time is now to form up into leaderless cells of 5 men or less.)
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To: Kartographer

1. GREAT graphic in #43!

2. Regarding the topic of this post, people who prepare for disasters of one type or another:

a) Do so at a time when there are NO shortages, so they place no burden on those who need food, water, tools, guns & ammo, etc.

b) They are much less needful of any public resources during a disaster, making more available for others.

c) Most of them have skills that they can teach to others, and tools to make food, generate a bit of electricity (to charge a cellphone, or to run a frig), help repair a damaged home, etc.

d) Their mindset of being prepared has benefits to others who are willing to learn. If everyone prepped, there’d be little need for FEMA and the gargantuan resources it uses.

“Selfish” is being uprepared and expecting others to provide for you in a time of distress, whether other individuals or the government. Worse than “selfish” is planning to confiscate (or whatever euphamism they want to use to say “steal”) food, water and other supplies from people who had foresight, morals and spent their own time, money and efforts to prepare for themselves (and possibly others, as well).

In short, those calling preppers “selfish” are either selfish themselves or worse, and they are engaging in some prepping of their own - prepping the battlespace that they expect to be in come some disaster. What is fortunate for us is that their plans, like everyone else’s are rendered useless at first contact with the enemy.


51 posted on 09/11/2014 12:49:44 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: bgill

Well said. No, we don’t want them pulling guard duty, either.


52 posted on 09/11/2014 12:49:50 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
But actually, I’m not even familiar with the term, ‘preppers’. I’m assuming it’s the same as ‘survivalist’, right? Wind-up flashlights and stuff?

As a long time survivalist who has had to watch survivalism mocked for decades, I love this new "prepper" thing for the suburbanites.

Prepper means the same thing, but it is so much more soccer mom sounding and it makes it easier to talk to people about prepping for things, the very same people who used to blanch in fear and think of camouflage and militias when they used to hear the word "survivalist", now are very aware of the common sense of having water and food for emergencies.

By the way, survivalism was big enough in the Houston area, that we had a survivalist themed, major night club there in the mid 1980s.

53 posted on 09/11/2014 3:01:42 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Kartographer

I may have to put that on a poster in the kitchen.LOL Thanks for the ping.


54 posted on 09/11/2014 8:13:01 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella
A “prepper” is a person who prepares for an emergency - simple. It's a “modern” term for an older term of “survivalist”. Hurricanes were a definite threat where I lived, and I stayed prepared for no electricity. Those preps were there for any other emergency that might happen.

What does that make Obama with all his preps that are grander than ours?

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LOL. What does that make Obama? Several words come to mind: a leach, a hypocrite, one who sponges off others. Everyone help me out. None of those seem adequate. There's got to be a better word or phrase.

As for the term prepper or survivalist. Those weren't words that I heard back in the day. I grew up in tornado alley, and also we had lots of electrical outages. Everyone I knew always had stuff on hand to take care of their families.

Flashlights, candles, coleman lanterns, and stoves. Plenty of food and canned milk, sleeping bags, heaters, guns and ammo, etc. It was just a way of life. If we had ever run into someone who didn't, we would have thought that they were either weird, or not playing with a full deck.

55 posted on 09/11/2014 8:26:25 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: bgill

LOL. Especially NOT guard duty.


56 posted on 09/11/2014 8:28:12 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: laplata
I bet those FReepers won’t share with the low life Obamabots when SHTF.

I daresay they'll likely meet them at the door....accompanied by high-power weaponry.

57 posted on 09/11/2014 8:32:53 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: hoagy62

No, they don’t believe in Prepping so they probably wouldn’t have the ammo.

Prepers would be more likely to meet them at the door.


58 posted on 09/11/2014 9:04:13 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Kartographer

1. When you are prepared to take care of yourself and yours, you free up more aid for others.

2. You can’t take care of others if you don’t take care of yourself.


59 posted on 09/12/2014 4:16:27 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Your feelings don't trump my free speech!)
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To: bgill

Fully agree; men mess around, the wife often gets killed. Mistresses murder the wife, or the husband kills the wife so he can marry his mistress scot-free.


60 posted on 09/13/2014 5:18:25 AM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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