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WATCH: What Charges Could Tony Stewart Face?
KGUN9 ^ | August 11th | Jay Sorgi

Posted on 08/11/2014 6:21:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
I just don't buy it. I've been to a bunch of dirt track races. Since I was a kid. And I've been to NASCAR races. And I've driven a NASCAR car a few times. I know a sprint car drives different and all that.

NASCAR Legend Tony Stewart ran into and killed an angry, stupid, sprint car driver on the track while doing 35mph under caution. I guess that pretty much sums it up for me.

61 posted on 08/11/2014 7:41:34 PM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: nickcarraway
As a NASCAR fan, I like Tony Stewart and he didn't do anything wrong. Ward was dressed in black (was he channeling his inner Dale Earnhardt, Sr?), and he ran onto the flow of the traffic.

That said, I'm a fan of all Ford drivers.

62 posted on 08/11/2014 7:41:44 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

My video camera is specifically designed to reach out and grab audio from where it is pointed. Its smart sound.


63 posted on 08/11/2014 7:42:54 PM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: kjam22

“My video camera “

Nice camera. But it’s your camera. Do you know what the fan had?


64 posted on 08/11/2014 7:47:23 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Nope... do you? My camera cost $200. Its not like its some high dollar camera. But when you listen to that audio on the youtube video... it sounds like audio that is focused. It does not sound like a microphone picking up everything going on within a 180 radius at the same levels. It sounds like a condenser mic, but it does not sound like a condenser mic with a cardoid pattern to me.


65 posted on 08/11/2014 7:53:18 PM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

So according to the above link I posted, in a sprint car, (believe me I don’t watch this stuff) if you gas it, it will spin like a top. So, given the legendary Tony Stewart had experience on this type of track and with this type of car and he sees this kid approaching from the right in an incredibly stupid and hot headed manner, if he gassed it, the car would spin and then turn the vehicle in a different direction, hence missing the kid (Tony had hoped). Is this not correct?


66 posted on 08/11/2014 7:55:13 PM PDT by laffnatu
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To: nickcarraway

There is this 20 year old kid at the rec center where I play basketball who is pretty good but is hot headed on the court. Some people push his buttons and he just loses it and gets in their face over a perceived slight. His demeanor has got him banned from the facility before. His behavior is inappropriate.

Would you rather be right or be alive?


67 posted on 08/11/2014 7:55:31 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: kjam22

What’s the brand make/model of the smart sound camera?


68 posted on 08/11/2014 7:56:07 PM PDT by laffnatu
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To: nickcarraway
From *my* view of the tape he should face no *criminal* charges.To me it proves *nothing* "beyond a reasonable doubt".But an imaginative...or ambitious...prosecutor might be able to convince a Grand Jury to indict.

Civilly it seems to me that he could be vulnerable to a judgment.

69 posted on 08/11/2014 7:58:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party policy;Lie,deny,refuse to comply)
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To: kjam22

You’re right. Neither of us know the facts. We’re just going to have to wait and see what the evidence actually shows.


70 posted on 08/11/2014 7:58:30 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: nickcarraway

900 horsepower crammed into a 1500 pound car fishtailing all over the place should be avoided by pedestrians.


71 posted on 08/11/2014 7:59:50 PM PDT by jetson
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To: kjam22

But the windows small and you cant see and you punch it to turn, left to turn right and right to turn left and it is dark and there is no steering, only throttle to steer

yeah and caution means what it says for a reason, especially for a professional racing veteran who has seen it all.


72 posted on 08/11/2014 8:00:19 PM PDT by winodog
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To: laffnatu
if he gassed it, the car would spin and then turn the vehicle in a different direction, hence missing the kid (Tony had hoped). Is this not correct?

Turning the front wheels to the right and hitting the throttle should break the rear end lose and make it slide to the left.

73 posted on 08/11/2014 8:00:48 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: kjam22

Not really seeing a point at pick up that sound - all have some rear and side pick up sound...

Omnidirectional: Picks up equally in all directions. 7pts-Omni.gif (2306 bytes)
Half-omnidirectional or hemispherical: Picks up equally over a 180 spherical angle. This is the pickup pattern of PZMs. 7pts-Halfomni.gif (1843 bytes)
All of the following patterns are considered unidirectional because
they pick up mainly in one direction.

Cardioid: “Heart-shaped” pattern that offers maximum rejection (null) at the rear of the microphone. 7pts-Cardioid.gif (2773 bytes)
Supercardioid: Has a narrower pickup pattern than cardioid, but also has some rear pickup. Note that there are two nulls of maximum sound rejection. 7pts-Superc.gif (3003 bytes)
Hypercardioid: Has a narrower pickup pattern than supercardioid, but also has more rear pickup than supercardioid. Note that there are two nulls. 7pts-Hyperc.gif (3075 bytes)
Half-unidirectional: The pickup pattern of PCC microphones. 7pts-Halfcard.gif (1699 bytes)
Bidirectional (figure-eight or cosine): Picks up mainly in two directions (in front of and behind the mic) and rejects sound from the sides.


74 posted on 08/11/2014 8:00:56 PM PDT by laffnatu
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To: nickcarraway
I watched that video, several times. I used to watch NASCAR; not by choice per se please understand but because of the person to whom I used to be married to and yes, Tony Stewart was my “favorite” driver if only because I really hated Jeff Gordon and Rusty Wallace - LOL, and although I’m no expert and certainly no expert in open wheel dirt track carts, I have a question that perhaps someone here more knowledgeable can answer.

I’ve seen people speculating that Stewart revved his engine and that he purposely steered into Ward, but the way it looks to me from the video, Ward walked straight into the SIDE of Stewart’s car AFTER the front end of Stewart’s car had already PASSED Ward, Ward perhaps trying to kick the side of Stewart’s car as it passed him.

It appears to me that Stewart’s car didn’t make a lurch until AFTER Ward had fallen under the rear wheels and the sound of Stewart’s car seemingly revving was because the rear wheels briefly coming off the track as they ran over Ward, causing the engine to rev because the rear drive wheels were briefly airborne, not in full contact with the track.

And as I understand, these dirt carts are steered much by acceleration and deceleration as they are by the steering wheel and operate much like a car on slick ice (you drive in the opposite direction of where you want to go while sliding) and that even if Stewart saw him (which I’m not convinced he did) he would have steered the cart up the track in order for the rear end of the cart to slide down, perhaps in hopes of not hitting him (Ward).

I could be off track (no pun intended or perhaps pun intended) and I know Stewart is a “hot head” but then not much more than many other drivers. It is a highly competitive and dangerous sport.

I find it sad and a complete ignorance of the law that some are calling for Tony Stewart to be charged with “murder”. At most, and I think unless more evidence comes to light, the very most he might be charged with is negligent manslaughter or a “wrongful death” in a civil suit and even that’s a stretch. I don’t see any premeditated intent here.

FWIW, some years ago I had gone out to lunch and was coming back to my office, driving up York Road in Timonium Maryland (a very busy road with two lanes each way with a center turning lane) when all of a sudden I heard a very loud thump and my car lurched a bit. I looked all around thinking another car had hit me and saw no other cars around me, then I saw in my rear view mirror some guy in the road behind me limping away.

I slammed my brakes, stopped my car and jumped out to see if the guy was OK.

He was trying to cross the very busy road and ran at full run across two lanes of the south bound traffic because it was clear and then continuing without looking to look for the oncoming traffic in the north bound lane, he just kept running and he ran straight into the side of my car. I never saw him and evidently he never saw me until he ran into me.

Fortunately he just bounced off a bit and was OK. I really wanted to call 9-11 and have him checked out and pleaded with him to get checked out, but he refused and just walked away, I never even got his name. I got back in my car and drove back to work, shaking the whole way. I kept thinking, what if I had been going a bit faster or a bit slower….and if I had been going slower he might have ran out in front of me instead of running into the side of my car? And I still might not have seen him until it was too late and the result, while it would still not have been my fault, it might have been very tragic and life changing for both of us. He could have been seriously injured or might have died because of his stupidity, but I would also have had to go through the rest of my life dealing with that and even that I wasn't at fault, I might have faced a police investigation, or a civil lawsuit.

But I did have an interesting story to tell my boss and co-workers as to why I was late getting back from lunch saying; “My car was hit by a pedestrian” and not everyone can say that.

75 posted on 08/11/2014 8:01:45 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: tacticalogic

Thanks...


76 posted on 08/11/2014 8:06:01 PM PDT by laffnatu
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To: laffnatu

Its a sony digital 8 steady shot dcr-tvrv260. Its more than 10 years old. I mean.. its not like this is new technology. But its designed to pickup sound from where the camera is focused. Really, it works pretty good... especially for the vintage.


77 posted on 08/11/2014 8:06:18 PM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: Stayfree

yes..he appeared to turn towards Ward...to scare him maybe?


78 posted on 08/11/2014 8:06:33 PM PDT by felixandbowinkle (let irritations pass and become truly happy and strong..fhu.com!)
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To: Cubs Fan

yes...manslaughter perhaps...


79 posted on 08/11/2014 8:06:33 PM PDT by felixandbowinkle (let irritations pass and become truly happy and strong..fhu.com!)
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To: MD Expat in PA

Nice perspective.. I will watch it again for this.


80 posted on 08/11/2014 8:09:34 PM PDT by laffnatu
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