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State of Emergency in Ohio: They can’t even boil their Water
Surviving Argentina ^ | 8/4/14 | Ferfal

Posted on 08/06/2014 3:16:16 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: Kartographer

Homemade Berkey....thats it ...Thanks Brother


21 posted on 08/06/2014 3:32:13 PM PDT by virgil283 (Life is hard .....its harder if you re stupid....John Wayne)
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To: reg45

The toxin only way that the toxin can be removed is trough reverse osmosis and then charcoal filtering. Many water treatment plants the treatment consist of mixing the contaminated water with uncontaminated water until it reaches a level below the approved threshold.


22 posted on 08/06/2014 3:33:35 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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“unlike bottles of liquid bleach, they do not lose power”

Correct. The instant water is added to Chlorine, it starts to degrade. At the factory, bleach is about 6.25% chlorine. By the time it gets to the store, sits on the shelf, you buy it and take it home, it’s down to 3 or 3 1/2%. Don’t count on bleach! I just retired from 30 years as the operator of a public water supply. We used SHCL to disinfect the water. 12.5%. As the product got older and older, we had to keep turning the chemical pumps up.


23 posted on 08/06/2014 3:34:26 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Kartographer

Just to make sure everyone understands, bleach or bleach tablets can be used on water that YOU have stored, but it is not effective for the toxins mentioned in this article.

According to an African paper I read, the toxins can be dealt with using large amounts of chlorine, but most of us would have no way to determine how much to use.


24 posted on 08/06/2014 3:44:10 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Kartographer

Wouldn’t the chlorine oxidize the toxin or would an even stronger oxidizer be required like hydrogen peroxide or ozone? Are the toxin molecules small enough to pass through RO membranes?


25 posted on 08/06/2014 3:52:26 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Kartographer

Can you correct me where I’m wrong?

If this happens in my area I can put these (or similar) tablets into the contaminated water, and the chlorinated water will eliminate the toxins and bacteria.

The I would need to boil the water and capture the vapor. I should then have fresh, drinkable water.

Do I have that right?


26 posted on 08/06/2014 3:55:33 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Kartographer

Thanks my friend.


27 posted on 08/06/2014 3:59:19 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

What happens if the boiling point of the tozcine fa at or below the boiling point of water?


28 posted on 08/06/2014 3:59:40 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Buy a couple bathtub bladders rent a truck, go to the next county and fill em up.

Make sure it’s a full sized truck.

You’ll be carrying almost 1,000 pounds.

If you can get a duely fill four bags.


29 posted on 08/06/2014 4:03:49 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Kartographer
What happens if the boiling point of the tozcine fa at or below the boiling point of water?

A pressure cooker might help in that case.

30 posted on 08/06/2014 4:07:30 PM PDT by BipolarBob ("I don't want Fop G@*&*&^^% it, I'm a Dapper Dan man".)
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To: Kartographer

You can still distill the water.


31 posted on 08/06/2014 4:11:26 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Kartographer

Wal-Mart: Pool Shock. Treats 10,000 gallons, $24.

I used a reloader’s digital scale to divvy up some into 1/2” polyseal bags for 1 gallon portions.


32 posted on 08/06/2014 4:12:48 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: cripplecreek
Lots of noise made about a “disaster” that was really more of an inconvenience.

That's SOP for the MSM Drama Queens.

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them
imaginary.

== H. L. Mencken (1880 – 1956), Journalist – magazine editor

33 posted on 08/06/2014 4:30:38 PM PDT by QT3.14 (USA born 7.4.1776 fathered by geniuses, died 11.4.2008 (Suicide) by idiots and traitors)
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To: Kartographer

Systems are being devised to filter such water for microcystin, showing promising results. A combination of charcoal and membranes.

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/microtox.htm


34 posted on 08/06/2014 4:35:45 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: QT3.14

Its why we have people calling 911 when McDonald’s gets their order wrong or facebook goes down.


35 posted on 08/06/2014 4:37:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: reg45

I don’t the toxins physical size, but it probably could not pass through an RO membrane. My choice would be ozone. That stuff essentially rips any organic molecule to shreds. If it has nothing else to do in water it can form H2O2. Very interesting stuff.


36 posted on 08/06/2014 4:38:22 PM PDT by lafroste (matthewharbert.wix.com/matthew-harbert)
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To: cherry

granular chlorine will create chlorine gas - it has sent me to the hosp twice - you get a whiff - first you cough - just minor but over the next hour your lungs begin creating phlegm to the point where you pass out - o2 in the hosp is about all you get - no fun


37 posted on 08/06/2014 4:40:05 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: cripplecreek

How did this go from a deadly menace to all clear in 48 hrs?

Methinks the crisis was non-existant based on no reports of mass fatalities.

I grew up drinking Cleveland water from Lake Erie where the intake was not far from the US Steel, Standard Oil, yadda yadda.


38 posted on 08/06/2014 4:41:02 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Kartographer

If the BP or vapor pressure is at or below waters BP or vapor pressure then boiling it then re-condensing the water won’t work. However, the act of boiling in and of itself might destroy it. Also boiling water is very energy intensive and is not practical for any but pot on the stove kind of boiling.


39 posted on 08/06/2014 4:42:37 PM PDT by lafroste (matthewharbert.wix.com/matthew-harbert)
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To: BipolarBob

Now you just sealed the toxcine in. This toxcine is what made this so dangerous, you couldn’t filter it or boil it out.


40 posted on 08/06/2014 4:43:24 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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