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Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER...
dailymail.co.uk ^ | : 06:57 EST, 27 June 2014 | Ellie Zolfagharifard

Posted on 06/28/2014 12:14:35 PM PDT by BenLurkin

The University of Maryland physicist believes the delay could have been because the light was in fact slowed as it travelled due to something known as 'vacuum polarisation'.

During this phenomenon, photons break down to something known as ‘positrons’ and electrons for a split second. before combining together again.

When they split, quantum mechanics creates a gravitational potential between the pair of ‘virtual’ particles.

Dr Franson argues that the process might have a gradual impact on the speed of the photon, meaning that over 168,000 light years, the photons may have suffered a near five-hour delay.

If the physicist is correct, it means scientists have to recalculate everything from our distance to the sun to some of the most distant objects seen in other galaxies.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: freakstate; haltonarp; kludge; speedoflight; stringtheory; vacuumpolarisation
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1 posted on 06/28/2014 12:14:35 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Placing my bet on the old patent clerk.


2 posted on 06/28/2014 12:16:09 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: BenLurkin

You can go faster than the speed of light. The fact light can’t catch up with the speed of matter is not my problem.


3 posted on 06/28/2014 12:18:12 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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To: BenLurkin
Full title:

Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think


4 posted on 06/28/2014 12:26:25 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: SpaceBar

Same here.

1987a has long been studied and the difference in time between the arrival of neutrinos and light here on Earth is understood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SN_1987A#Neutrino_emissions

It should also be noted that Franson is not an astrophysicist.

http://cybersecurity.umbc.edu/training/faculty/james-franson/


5 posted on 06/28/2014 12:26:49 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: BenLurkin

Oh crap. Am I going to have to set my clocks back?


6 posted on 06/28/2014 12:28:45 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: BenLurkin; SunkenCiv

fascinating


7 posted on 06/28/2014 12:30:27 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Eddie01

At those speeds you are neither matter or light...
you are aliens.


8 posted on 06/28/2014 12:30:54 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Eddie01

does this mean that stars might be a lot closer than we thought?


9 posted on 06/28/2014 12:31:12 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: BenLurkin

That’s pretty much what I’ve been thinking all along.


10 posted on 06/28/2014 12:31:26 PM PDT by boycott
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To: GeronL

In some cases yes


11 posted on 06/28/2014 12:34:42 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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To: Eddie01

I’m glad we figured this out before we warped right into the center of a star!

*whew*


12 posted on 06/28/2014 12:36:57 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: BenLurkin

“....creates a gravitational potential between the pair of ‘virtual’ particles.”

While having to pack for a bit longer trip to Alpha Centauri, I wonder if the real discovery doesn’t have something to do with being able to create an anti-gravity device.


13 posted on 06/28/2014 12:37:08 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: BenLurkin
My apologies in advance if my understanding of quantum mechanics is too little to intelligently comment.

Stephen Hawking theorized that virtual particle-antiparticle pairs could spontaneously appear just outside the event horizon of a black hole, permitting one of the pair to enter the black hole and the other to escape, thus allowing matter to effectively escape from the black hole. The uncertainty principle permits otherwise impermissible things to happen as long as they don't require too much mass-energy or last too long.

It does seem to me conceivable that a photon moving through space could possibly undergo a similar transition, subject to the same uncertainty limitations. Conservation of mass-energy and momentum could perhaps insure that the photon which results at the end of the transition would have the same momentum (that is, direction) as the original photon. Whether the observed speed of the photon would be reduced is a question beyond my ability to conjecture.

The linked article suggests a delay of 4.7 hours over a path which takes 168,000 years to cover. I calculate that that is a discrepancy of roughly 3 parts per billion. That sounds to me like a pretty large error to have escaped observation given the great accuracy of time measurements possible today.

14 posted on 06/28/2014 12:37:52 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: GeronL

25.67 trillion miles to Alpha Centauri.

There’s your starting point. You do the math, I’m not even going to try.


15 posted on 06/28/2014 12:39:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: BenLurkin
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16 posted on 06/28/2014 12:40:27 PM PDT by mikrofon (Fyzx BUMP)
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To: GeronL

light is just an identifier of the existence of matter, it does not limit matters law of existence

how fast matter moves is matters business


17 posted on 06/28/2014 12:41:36 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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To: BenLurkin

What do the guys from The Big Bang Theory (except Howard) have to say about this?


18 posted on 06/28/2014 12:43:10 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: BenLurkin
Einstein was wrong about the speed of light being constant at least.

Speed of Light May Not Be Constant, Physicists Say
http://www.livescience.com/29111-speed-of-light-not-constant.html

Speed of Light Not a Constant: New Break-Through Research
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2013/04/speed-of-light-not-a-constant-it-varies-.html


19 posted on 06/28/2014 12:44:13 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: GeronL

Exactly, the improbability of the position of matter makes space travel impossible.


20 posted on 06/28/2014 12:45:18 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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