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Biker says Harley-Davidson rejected warranty claim for riding with flags
Yahoo ^ | 5-28-14 | Alex Lloyd

Posted on 05/29/2014 1:29:39 AM PDT by kingattax

As a former politician, Dave Zien has built a reputation for defending motorcyclists' rights – as well as cruising the country with patriotic flags hanging off the back of his Harley-Davidson motorcycle for millions of miles.

So it came as something of a shock when Harley rejected a warranty repair Zien sought for a broken clutch on a new Harley trike — citing his flags as the real cause. Zien, who bought the bike new in March, has voiced his displeasure throughout the biker community, telling Fox News that Harley-Davidson informed him he was "blocked" because of his flag displays, and can "never get any warranty work" for seven years.

Harley-Davidson responded to the Journal Sentinel of Milwaukee, stating that Zien's warranty is still valid, but that it denied this claim due to the the "terrific drag (the flags create) on the engine and transmission." The company also says that the flag mounts used were not Harley products, which played a part in the claim's denial, despite Zien arguing that a registered Harley dealer installed the mounts.

Zien, aged 64, served as a U.S. marine in Vietnam in the late '60s, prior to joining the Wisconsin State Senate between 1993 and 2006. His stint in the senate brought him some local recognition, but it was his full-size flags – including a 3-foot-by-5-foot American flag – waving proudly from behind his Harley that ensured an avid following of bikers.


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To: MikeSteelBe

The clutch on HDs are wet and located in the primary chain case, which is separated from the transmission oil and engine oil. (No friction material will contaminate the other oils.)


61 posted on 05/29/2014 5:43:55 PM PDT by OA5599
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To: maddog55

more of a dump than a drag


62 posted on 05/29/2014 5:44:49 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Haven’t had a call for one, yet.

If it’s belt or chain drive, he can do it.

The “impossible” [like a Ridley] just takes a bit longer.

:)


63 posted on 05/29/2014 5:49:00 PM PDT by Salamander (It's a cult and they worship blue oysters!)
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To: OA5599

Is there a clutch oil too?


64 posted on 05/29/2014 5:49:18 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Every HD shop now offers store-advertising shirts.

People collect ‘em to show where they’ve been.


65 posted on 05/29/2014 5:50:16 PM PDT by Salamander (It's a cult and they worship blue oysters!)
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To: Salamander

That’s what I thought... the only thing I could see being banned is reprinting already-printed shirts.


66 posted on 05/29/2014 5:51:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Salamander

Show where you’ve been, huh.

There is a city in Michigan named Hell, but there is no Hell Harley-Davidson. If there was, its T-shirt would show you had been to Hell and back.

(But there is a Paradise H-D, in Oregon.)

Maybe Hell is not a good place to have a dealership.


67 posted on 05/29/2014 5:55:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If by blessing you mean pay through the nose for a co-branding license, then yes I imagine they could. Bartels in LA has their logos on the back of official HD merch. No idea if they bought a license or are so big they do whatever they want. Our local HD dealer sells a full line of HD merch, none of it has their name on it.


68 posted on 05/29/2014 6:13:40 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: MikeSteelBe

Only the early Harleys and the belt-primary bikes had true dry clutches. The later bikes, and chain primaries from about 84 onward use wet clutches.


69 posted on 05/29/2014 9:17:12 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Harley does build a Trike. They have since 2009. The model is FLHTCUTG Tri-Glide Ultra Classic, and as someone else noted up-thread, it’s ridiculously pricey for what you get.


70 posted on 05/29/2014 9:20:12 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: moehoward

I’ve seen it in “little” dealerships in the Chicago, Illinois area.


71 posted on 05/30/2014 12:23:14 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: shibumi
Mine was ridable when I got it. But it did have accident damage. I had to replace the windsheild, mirrors and trunk. It has some road rash on the left side crash bars as well but IDK about that. Story I was told is they hit the side of a semi trailer and then it went down and slid under.. Poor rider. (he did live but man that had to hurt).. This is about how I got it. I had already replaced the trunk.  photo 2014-03-23155114.jpg
72 posted on 05/30/2014 7:03:27 AM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yep. These type policies usually end up effecting the biggest supporters of the product. HDs primary targets, custom cycle shops and ‘alternative lifestyle’ parlors never really stopped.

I haven’t worked around HD for years, but they were the most rabid at copyright enforcement. Still work in licensed sportswear and while some of the most recognized labels do have a few provisos with co-branding, I’ve never seen Nike threaten a golf shop for adding their name to a Nike polo.


73 posted on 05/30/2014 7:43:18 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward
I’ve never seen Nike threaten a golf shop for adding their name to a Nike polo.

My SIL is a PGA club pro and he has contracts with all his apparel suppliers. They have a corps of salespeople who visit all the time.

74 posted on 05/30/2014 7:45:57 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: nascarnation

And?


75 posted on 05/30/2014 7:59:20 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward

I assume if this is the norm, there would be no reason for Nike to threaten any golf shop because they are business partners.


76 posted on 05/30/2014 8:12:08 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: nascarnation

Your SIL has a golf shop, she has “contracts” with Nike to sell their apparel, she adds her name to the Nike merchandise then re-sells it. Correct?


77 posted on 05/30/2014 8:21:26 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward

yes (it’s actually my Son in law)


78 posted on 05/30/2014 8:22:07 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: nascarnation
I can't imagine why a contract would be required unless the shop is exclusive to a single vendor.

Regardless. I sell Nike's golf apparel line, along with Russell, Champion and many others. No contract is required for any portion of the transaction. And as I say, I've never heard of Nike making life difficult for any golf shop that puts it's name on a Nike polo, which is the point. Where HD's copyright bulldogs are quite active, others are more tolerant.

79 posted on 05/30/2014 9:18:18 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: KingLudd

Amen, Buddy has a fat boy and I would take my BMW over it any day of the week. Was like riding a horse bareback. No thanks. I’ll take german engineering and a real bike...


80 posted on 05/30/2014 9:57:44 AM PDT by halfright (FAST & FURIOUS! DON'T ALLOW THEM TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION.)
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