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When Ph.D.s realize they won’t be professors
Maclean's ^ | May 22, 2014 | Josh Dehaas

Posted on 05/26/2014 1:25:04 PM PDT by rickmichaels

Jennifer Polk was a few years into her Ph.D. in history at the University of Toronto when she attended a departmental meeting and heard that 50 per cent of the school’s graduates were getting tenure-track professor jobs. “They were patting themselves on the back,” she says. “I was sitting there horrified.” She realized she needed another plan. Since that meeting several years ago, the number of jobs for academics has fallen further. The chance of becoming a professor is now estimated to be one in four.

Charmaine Grant began her Ph.D. three years ago partly because she couldn’t get a full-time job after finishing her M.A. in literature at Ryerson University. “I said to myself, there’s no way I can go through another year of this, just sending my CV into cyberspace,” she says. “I thought my time would be better spent in school.” She was thinking less about whether she would become a professor and more about how exciting it would be to continue her scholarship on black women’s hair. Today, still unable to see herself as a professor, she’s quit the doctorate and begun a job search.

Both women say that the culture of academia has made the transition from graduate school to work more difficult than it ought to be. “Everyone asks you, inside and outside the academy, ‘So are you going to be a professor?’ ” says Polk, “When you get to the point where you realize maybe this is not for me, you feel like a loser.”

A couple of recent studies, The 2013 Canadian Postdoc Survey and Beyond Labs and Libraries: Career Pathways for Doctoral Students, confirm that many graduate students aren’t getting the support they need to prepare for non-academic careers.

The Postdoc Survey, a partnership between the Canadian Association of Postdoctoral Scholars and Mitacs (an organization that coordinates industry-university research partnerships, including internships) consulted 1,830 of the estimated 9,000 Ph.D. graduates working as entry-level “postdoctoral researchers” in Canada. They found that their average age was 34 and roughly two-thirds earned less than $45,000 annually, many without benefits. Half reported no exposure to non-academic careers and 87 per cent said they either had no access to career counselling or were uncertain thereof. Nearly seven in 10 said their career goal was to become a professor—despite the odds. While large numbers agreed they wanted training in things like grant or proposal writing and project management, few were getting any. Some of their comments were revealing: one said non-academic careers were seen as “selling out or failing.”

The good news is that most master’s and doctoral graduates who leave the academy eventually find high-paying work. Statistics Canada’s 2013 National Graduates Survey looked at where the class of 2010 ended up three years later. Among master’s graduates, 90 to 95 per cent were working full-time, depending on the province (the rest were unemployed or not seeking work). Among doctoral graduates, employment rates ranged from 90 to 100 per cent. Median pay was $70,000 for master’s graduates and $75,000 for doctoral graduates, compared to $53,000 for bachelor’s graduates.

The other good news is that a group of Ontario academics is working to develop training to ease the transition. Allison Sekuler, AVP and dean of graduate studies at McMaster University, is part of a project that will, this fall, launch 18 learning modules for graduate students covering everything from resumés to networking. “They have a lot of skills but don’t know how to adapt those for non-academic careers,” she says.

Polk struggled to figure out how to apply her skills outside of the academy. She hadn’t enjoyed teaching, but she did build writing skills and community building skills, not only through her doctoral work but also through her indie music blog and at a part-time job where she worked with consultants. “I went straight through: high school, undergrad, M.A., Ph.D.,” she says. “When I finished I was 32 years old. I mean, thank God for the music scene experience. Thank God for the consulting.”

She’s capitalized on those strengths by starting a new blog, FromPhDtoLife.com, which includes interviews with other people who transitioned out of academia. One of her favourites is from a guy who, at age 36, finished his Ph.D. and spent months working for his brother-in-law’s duct cleaning company—and enjoyed it. After that, he found work at a museum consulting firm. The blog helps her drum up business as a life coach. She charges by the hour to help young academics plan their careers.

Grant, meanwhile, is wary of her lack of experience outside the academy but exploring options. She’s glad she took on a Mitacs internship and other work with the Diversity Institute while doing her Ph.D. because it helped her build new skills. “I had to learn how to work within a team and ask for help when I needed it,” she says. Her work on the Black Experience Project also taught her how grant-proposal writing differs from academic writing. She’s thinking of applying those skills in her career or maybe trying something entirely new, like learning American sign language. Whichever direction she takes, after a decade of university, it’s going to be a big change.


TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: academia; highereducation
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To: Osage Orange

I hope your coworkers listen. Thanks!


61 posted on 05/26/2014 4:01:35 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: jtal
Is this a joke?

Yes.
On the American taxpayer and every serious university student. Getting a worthless degree, by simply having a pulse and attending classes is the biggest joke on the very concept of "education."

62 posted on 05/26/2014 4:04:27 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: Delta Dawn
Okay...I'll bite.

You got any logic/geography/physics, magic magnetic stuff...religious stuff...that makes THAT happen?? LOL!!

If you do...I want to know!!! HAHA!!!!!

63 posted on 05/26/2014 4:11:00 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Huskrrrr
Most don't.

Some do....best I can tell.

FRegards-

64 posted on 05/26/2014 4:12:08 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: publius911

“her scholarship on black women’s hair.”

Speechless


65 posted on 05/26/2014 4:15:43 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: rickmichaels

So I guess when I told my academic advisor / one of my professors when he suggested I go for a PhD in History “Thanks, but I have no intention of joining the academic priesthood” (thus pi**ing him off royally) I was ahead of my time.


66 posted on 05/26/2014 4:19:48 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
It’s as bad as getting a Pd.D. in Women’s Studies!
Whatchya gonna do with that?

Create social unrest for the rest of your miserable life.

Sort of like "community organizers."

67 posted on 05/26/2014 4:22:56 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Well maybe at one point my BSME earned me 6 figures... but not now. Not even close.


68 posted on 05/26/2014 4:38:09 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: rickmichaels

The average Ph.D. in history needs to study Ray Kroc and the history of McDonalds.


69 posted on 05/26/2014 4:41:54 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: blueplum
WTSHTF these are the people who become immediately useless.

They are already useless... they are actually worse than useless, they are scamming grant money that Fedzilla throws at them for useless research that aims at harming taxpayers.

70 posted on 05/26/2014 4:44:03 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Jacquerie
Yeah, as expected, that got zero coverage by the rat media.

Yeah. Now that you mention it, the only reason I remember reading about that incident anywhere at all, was Freeper thread posted by a "local."

As with everything else, ignorance is always a self-imposed life style.

Zero information ding-dongs are the new "normal."

71 posted on 05/26/2014 4:44:46 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: KevinB
Charmaine Grant

I may not be Mr. Whipple, but...

...Please don't squeeze the Charmaine.

72 posted on 05/26/2014 4:56:09 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: rickmichaels

Leonard Hofstadter, Howard Wolowitz, Raj Koothrappali, Sheldon Cooper and Amy Farrah Fowler are all looking for a tenured position at the university.

I bet Penny has a better chance of getting one.


73 posted on 05/26/2014 5:48:19 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: 4Liberty
Engineering majors DO NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM; Feminist Poetry majors - yes.

Unfortunately, many of us lack the head for STEM careers. Sociologist Charles Murray mentioned a growing "cognitive elite" -- those who are adept at computers & technology, those who aren't. Those who aren't are going to have a terrible time in today's market, and a terrible future.

This doesn't mean that we should pursue a useless degree, either. The lack of jobs should give anyone pause before writing a dissertation on black women's hair. I predict, anyway, that the importance of college will decrease; a liberal-arts or Ivy League place will (or already has) become the haven of kooky trust-fund kids -- those who virtually do or study what they want, without having to worry about making a living.

74 posted on 05/26/2014 8:11:04 PM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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