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To: Perdogg

I’ve read this earlier. Reminded me of Starship Troopers and how they limiting the vote to the military. I’d seriously consider running for office on such a platform. What’s wrong with the idea?


3 posted on 05/08/2014 7:32:19 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
I don't think everybody has to be in the military to vote. Personally I don't want everybody to be eligible for military duty. It slows the rest of us down.

I think a critical component to voting should be paying taxes. That doesn't mean everybody has to be rich. We need a tax structure where everybody pays something. That "something" immediately makes all but the uber-warped liberals into somewhat of a fiscal conservative. The current freebie structure we have make a big voting block who vote to fill their pockets with money from those who pay taxes.

5 posted on 05/08/2014 7:38:58 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

It’s a concept which appeals to many in the military.

But other than that...no.


6 posted on 05/08/2014 7:50:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

So only government employees who are trained to follow orders no mater what can vote? And you don’t see a flaw in that?


7 posted on 05/08/2014 7:51:40 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Nothing is wrong with the concept as long as you really grok (sorry I’m a Heinlein fan) it. It was more complicated than just allowing the military to vote.


10 posted on 05/08/2014 7:55:26 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Reminded me of Starship Troopers and how they limiting the vote to the military.

False.

Federal Service Guarantees Citizenship.

16 posted on 05/08/2014 8:14:28 PM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

It would be reasonable if it included the hard civic service in the book, too.
But today it might fail because only 1.5% are active military. We’d see public school teachers, environmentalists, NGO workers and other left dominated groups say they serve the public, they get to vote.


18 posted on 05/08/2014 8:16:50 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Heinlein had other forms of qualifying volunteer national service for those who could not qualify for military service in “Starship Troopers.” His point was that full citizenship was a privilege to be earned in that society, not a birthright.
28 posted on 05/08/2014 8:29:00 PM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
To become a citizen you had to have served in the armed forces. Only citizens could vote - the thinking being that only someone who had fought could even contemplate the cost of freedom and the high price put on having a vote! “Under our system every voter and officeholder is a man who has demonstrated through voluntary and difficult service that he places the welfare of the group ahead of personal advantage.” ― Robert A. Heinlein, Starship Troopers
35 posted on 05/08/2014 8:43:09 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Because it has an unpopular name ... Fascism. Perhaps we can re-brand it as Smileists and Smileism.


41 posted on 05/08/2014 9:42:44 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
I’ve read this earlier. Reminded me of Starship Troopers and how they limiting the vote to the military. I’d seriously consider running for office on such a platform. What’s wrong with the idea?

REALLY!

If you are unfortunate enough to be in the military under this regime... You are knowingly or unwittingly a tool of the Marxist in the white hut.

The Heinlein paradigm only works when patriots are commander in chief.

50 posted on 05/09/2014 3:59:30 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Reminded me of Starship Troopers and how they limiting the vote to the military.

Voting was limited to Citizens. Civilians (residents) could not vote.
Service in the military ensured Citizenship. There were other ways to achieve Citizenship, such as some other form of volunteer Federal service.

67 posted on 05/09/2014 8:53:49 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Only Liberals can look at an amendment that says “shall not be infringed" and see blank parchment.)
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