Modern students have to work as much as 6x longer to pay for college than 30 years ago
I must have missed the law that stated that college students were forced to work for minimum wage.
One would think that an energetic, smart person could do better than the absolute minimum.
There is also that whole, working before you go to college thing.
GI Bill, Hard Work U, correspondence, community college, etc.
I worked my way through college, at least as an undergrad. I had an athletic scholar ship and a job running the university’s switchboard in the evenings until 10:00.
I also got training table and the athletic department would let you borrow your text books. I had enough money left over that I bought an old car from Billy Graham. Not that Billy Graham, this one was a football player.
Now grad school was way worse. I had a scholarship but ended up selling a good part of my belongings including around a hundred guns.
If I may steal a page from the Kenyan’s playbook, they could dump the “smart” phone and cable TV. Maybe miss a view “spring break” trips and parties and I think it can still be done. I worked my way to a college degree and never worked a “minimum wage” job doing it.
Funny, I’m working my way through college right now. My company reimburses my tuition.
This can be directly attributable to shoveling student loans to people who were totally unqualified to go to college.
The low-information types borrowed whatever the college said they needed. Since the money came so easily, colleges could jack up rates and students would just borrow more.
Think of the tens of thousands of Liberal college professors teaching meaningless courses whose paychecks came from those exploited students.
The college tuition bubble must burst. When it does, only people who are qualified to go to college will go, and they won't be paying for professors teaching meaningless courses.
It's going to be sweet to see professors of vagina dialogue studies forced to find real jobs.
I worked PT in a warehouse and as a bread baker in a bakery. I lived in a slum and got day old bread. It sucked but I managed.
He became a mechanical engineer. We went to Saudi Arabia and made a PILE of money. His profession paid off in SPADES.
It just took a few years to pay off his school debts. And yes, he also worked while he went to school.
One year he worked at and lived at a veterinarians hospital and took care of the sick animals at night and on the weekends.
There was also a HUGE tom cat named OMAR who ruled the place sitting placidly on the counter. NO ONE messed with Omar. Every once in a while some dog would go after him and Omar would SWIPE the dog with a mighty THWACK. Then the vet had to sew up the dog.
True story: There was this one HUGE sweet Doberman named "Roger" who was there recuperating. My husband was to give him his PILL at a prescribed time. Well, Roger wouldn't cooperate and wrestled with my husband, a big, strong guy ... for 10 minutes.
Finally, my husband held out the pill and said: "Come on Roger, take your pill. Roger immediately lapped up the pill and swallowed it. He had just WANTED TO PLAY a bit. :o)
The only college course anyone should spend tens of thousands on is HOW TO SPEAK A FOREIGN LANGUAGE.
Graduates then may have a chance a to get a job.
At Taco Bell.
College would be far cheaper if student lomas were a little harder to get.
So What? That 45 hours out of 15 weeks is 1.785% of the possible 2,520 hours.
If you took 5 classes you'd spend 8.928% of that time in class. Isn't going to class why you decided on college?
Add a full 8 hours a day sleeping and you end up with an average of 13.7 hours of free time each day in a 15 week period.
Sounds like more push for government to pay for everything.
My DIL took the courses she could afford and sat out asemester when things were tight. She was going to sit out another semester but I found out and I gave her the downpayment on her tuition and she was able to pay it off through the semester.
How about go to community college and live at home, and then transfer to a 4 year college near your home.
In San Jose, that would be under $25k total. I’m assuming 3 years at San Jose State.
It's inexorable.
The fewer kids that are willing to pay off those loans, often upwards of $100k, the more expensive the education for the remaining suckers.
Soon NOBODY will pay $200k or more for a 4year degree in stupid from the average State University. Well, except for the genuinely stupid.
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I waited tables during college.
Sometimes I’d go class, work a lunch shift, go to class, work the dinner shift. Got free food out of the deal, as well.
I must have missed the law that stated that college students were forced to work for minimum wage. One would think that an energetic, smart person could do better than the absolute minimum.One would think, but not anymore. My company will not hire non-college degreed people for anything more than minimum wage. The only exception to that is if you have certifications AND a minimum 3-5 years experience, which mainly applies only to our field technicians. If you want an office job, we offer unpaid internships to college students.
There is also that whole, working before you go to college thing.True, but then there is the problem of trying to explain away the "age gap" or explaining that you needed to earn money for college and didn't want to get a loan. That usually results in an "I see." and a File 13 for the resume.
Another factor is that employers do NOT want to accommodate any kind of school schedule. The employer wants you to work WHENEVER they determine they need you, and they do NOT want to hear about this time off or that day off. You try that with employers and you’re fired and they get someone else!That's the truth. The last time I knew of any employer accommodating me or any of my friends that way was at a startup back in the late 90s.
For those without the academic bona fides to earn a merit scholarship, two years at a community college, followed by a transfer to a state school should work just fine. A 40-hour-a-week worker taking two courses per semester, three times a year should take 2 1/3 years for the first half of a degree (and an associates) and 2 1/3 years for the second half of a degree (and a bachelor’s).
That’s actually quicker than the now common five-year plan through a supposedly four-year institution. It should also leave the student debt-free and readily employable with a substantial work history in 4 2/3 years time.
I worked my way through college. I got a job as a night shift janitor, and was a full time engineering student by day.
4 years and DONE!
Thankfully, I got laid off after about 2 years and got to keep my “scholarship”.