Posted on 03/29/2014 9:46:27 PM PDT by Albion Wilde
I was out earlier tonight and heard Mick Jagger over a store loudspeaker singing "Under My Thumb." Given the very tragic suicide of his lover of 13 years, fashion designer and stylist L'Wren Scott, who was buried earlier this week amid rumors that Mick's unfaithfulness was one contributory factor, I hope he never, ever performs that song again...
I hope he performs it in a joint live session with ZZ Top. I have to lose a song because she did that? Is she so clean that the world needs to lose a song in her honor? Please,,,
Marimbas, not xylophone.
You've never lost someone before their time, right? It ain't pretty.
The songs will still be there on records. But there is something obscene about singing such misogyny in the months after her death. It would be like those guys with a 30-year marriage and four grown kids who seek an annulment from the Catholic Church so they can marry their secretary. Leaves a bad taste. Please is right.
Great song, actually. Like Sundown and Every Breath You Take, true poetic expressions of male anger. I’m interested in the male point of view when it comes to women - the good and the bad.
She committed suicide because she was in huge debt. You might be surprised how being in debt can cause suicidal feelings. Poor lady but Under My Thumb had nothing to do with it.
Two of the biggest supporters of Under My Thumb are Rush Limbaugh and his old pal, Camille Paglia. She writes very eloquently about this song. No song ever led to a suicide.
Ah! The Stones,,,,, loved their first three albums, then started getting conflicted. Mick had become a charicature of himself,,, Keef was a full-blown junkie,,,, still,,, they made some great stuff. After Keef got schooled by Ry Cooder, they put out some great songs, but still,,,,,,,....
If we go by that standard, we’ll be left with very little music. Silliness. And also ungrateful. Even in collapse of a business, she had a lifestyle that many can only dream of, and millions in the bank.
And she threw away the one most precious thing a human can possess. Her life as a “failure” would be a pampered lifestyle for most people.
Many on this thread are trying to fit the past into the future. Of course what he wrote in the 60s has nothing to do with the suicide — seriously?
I’m just hoping he has a dawning awareness of how destructive the hedonist lifestyle can be for some people, and how the whole 60s schtick is increasingly bankrupt, and not necessarily a good thing to be promoting to newer, younger audiences faced with an entirely different, greatly more dangerous and fragile world than the one he grew up in and the moral order against which which he rebelled. He grew up in an intact family, and apparently craves his children’s attention; I read that they actually used Biblical passages at the funeral. Under that bravado there is a heart.
interesting,,
Seriously?
Don't you think there are thousands of us who have never seen the Stones live nor have ever heard of this woman who are deeply interested in knowing if a 70 year old codger is ever going to sing a song that has nothing to do with her?
Read carefully. I’m not thinking about Mick’s feelings or your feelings, but rather the experience of his future audience of young people, because he is contracted to perform live again soon. I’m thinking about the influence of that 60s attitude of sadistic emotional experimentation and sexual chaos on yet another generation. If he hardens himself to sing “60s sexual revolution” songs in this aftermath, it will surely make some percentage of his audiences very uncomfortable, as I was in the store hearing that old song this week.
(Did you know the women Sundown was written about was the same women who injected the fatal drugs into John Belushi?)
Could be bipolar, but there are a lot of women who still think that they will be the one to change the man.
Paint It Black is perfect for this situation.
You've a way with words there.
Never cared much for “Under My Thumb.” I liked their bluesy stuff. I found a karaoke version of “The Spider and the Fly” and people love it, especially - surprisingly - the women, since it’s a song about infidelity.
Oh yes!
I thought their last great album was the double album with “Rip This Joint,” “Hip Shake,” and a few other little-known classics. I’ve been drinking a bit, so I forget the name of the album . . . It was in the Mick Taylor era.
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