Posted on 03/29/2014 9:46:27 PM PDT by Albion Wilde
I was out earlier tonight and heard Mick Jagger over a store loudspeaker singing "Under My Thumb." Given the very tragic suicide of his lover of 13 years, fashion designer and stylist L'Wren Scott, who was buried earlier this week amid rumors that Mick's unfaithfulness was one contributory factor, I hope he never, ever performs that song again...
If you picture him actually singing that song in front of a live audience after what has happened, maybe you'll see how sad that would be.
I went to art school with scores of women like L'Wren Scott. The life of a creative professional is a hard life in so many ways -- the constant pressure to innovate, produce ever greater works and stay relevant; and for the fashion designers, they must also stay gorgeous and endure the limelight and all that goes with it. She was extraordinarily talented, but like many creatives, lacked the business gene. Business failures, her history as an adopted child who towered over her classmates (she was 6'3"), the onset of menopause and Mick's unfaithfulness apparently snowballed. RIP.
Don’t read it, then.
People make choices - they make good ones and they make bad ones - blaming their choices on someone else is really a cop out. If Jagger would not give up his cheating ways on her why bother with him - her death did fix the problem though - he literally can’t cheat on her anymore! Seems like a dumb choice to make! I feel sad for them both - sad that they have not found a relationship based on mutual respect and love and they did not have the courage to exclusively commit to that - all the money and fame in the world cannot buy that!
Do you really think she killed herself because he wouldn’t marry her? Remember, Jagger is the guy who went through a marriage to his last consort in Indonesia, then claimed later that it was intentionally invalid. She had about as much chance of marrying him as she had of marrying Liberace. And she wasn’t a new babe in the woods when she took up with him. Most likely she was bipolar or had a condition like that.
Sounds more like the rationalization of an abuser to me.
That's about Mick? I always thought it was about Warren Beatty...
He was always something of a bad boy that was overlooked for his music.
Many former abused become abusers. Just the way it is, unfortunately.
Wow. I didn’t know that. That’s one of my all time favorite songs. Always suspected Jagger was a bit of a chav. I’m certain of it now.
That sounds like a rationalization.
Speculation all over the map for decades. People settled on Mick Jagger because he sang backup on the studio version, assumed it was tongue in cheek.
Obviously there were many factors, as I implied at the beginning by saying "contributory", not "absolute", and "faithfulness", not "marriage."
He had an apparently wonderful childhood, educated and caring parents, all private schools and university... it wasn’t abuse that made him the way he was.
One bad relationship can poison the well. It’s in how you take it. Often the one who is most bitter about it is the one who screwed things up the most.
The guy’s been a try-sexual trollop for half a century. Falling for such an individual was not the most clearheaded thing to do.
Those lyrics always sucked. If anything, they espouse the kind of emotion that leads to rape, not love.
Backstreet girl is about the same.
I always thought that song was about Maryanne Faithful? The one who wrote “As Tears Go By”?
I liked the early Stonrs stuff when I discovered them in the 80s. The Brian Jones stuff. I have Paint it Black and Mothers Little Helper on my iPod.
I especially like the latter, I don’t know why but I do.
Stupid girl
Last time
Don'tcha bother me
Time
It's all over now
19th nervous breakdown
Just off the top. There are probably a few dozen more. You absolutely have a big heart, and are touched by the sadness of the suicide.
realize however, the lyrics behind a particular song written four decades before have as much bearing on it as a C&W song about trucks, trains, dogs and pick up trucks.
ps, I kinda like the song, especially brian jones on the xylophone.
It's a terrible shame he still reserved the right to run around, the eternal 60s rocker at his age (70); and that she didn't have the strength to find someone who would really love her, or to stand alone without him after he had pulled her into his rarefied orbit. She had been doing well on her own as a movie stylist in LA before she took up with him.
Understand: I accept that what’s done is done and can’t be undone. But I just hope for the sake of her beauty and fragility that he avoids some of those types of lyrics going forward, assuming he does perform again. They cancelled their Austrailan tour when this happened, but are rescheduling it.
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