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Chesterton was exactly right when he stated:

"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing — they believe in anything"

1 posted on 03/27/2014 7:55:49 AM PDT by C19fan
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Isn’t God by definition super natural?

Yes, Chesterton was very often spot on.


2 posted on 03/27/2014 8:00:01 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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Beat me to it. I was going to suggest that we now have social-scientific confirmation of Chesterton’s dictum.


3 posted on 03/27/2014 8:01:47 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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Or put another way: If you stand for nothing you fall for anything.


4 posted on 03/27/2014 8:02:30 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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Yep ... some people are superstitious, spiritual, believe in ghosts, angels demons, space aliens, think that their own “minds” can create something out of nothing (in a tangible sense), think that they are “god” or free agents of the universe — but — find it impossible to believe that there is such a thing as our Creator God of the universe, as described in the Bible, who did what is described in Genesis and Exodus (and further on in the Bible).


5 posted on 03/27/2014 8:03:02 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Some 29 per cent of these gifted souls believe they can see into the future, while 25 per cent say they can regress to past lives and 23 per cent claim to be telepathic.

In contrast, just 8 per cent attend a church or other place of worship at least once a week.

Even if this was a random poll, there is some self-selection in who stays on the line to answer the questions. Still, the results are disappointing for Christians, traditionaists and rationalists.

6 posted on 03/27/2014 8:06:12 AM PDT by heartwood
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Makes sense. Ghosts and superstitions pronounce no moral judgement on people, nor do they require any self-denial. God expects more from us, and has provided His grace to make us better than we would be.


7 posted on 03/27/2014 8:06:31 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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I am still exercising Thomas Jefferson’s axiom:
“Question everything.”

I go to one church, taking a blue denim covered TEV bible. The preacher berates me for having ‘such an abomination’.

I go to another church, carrying the RSV bible, the other preacher demanded I obtain, and am told by this one, ‘We don’t use that, here, but you may in your own home. We use ‘this’’.

I make a trip to a third church, and, yup, you guessed it, ‘wrong version again!’ This time, it was a gifted-by-the-preacher-himself NIV Study bible!

Maybe not to you, but to me, a bible is the same as a rose, (by another name it is still a bible). All three churches, supposedly of the same twig, of the same branch of Christianity, but reviled at any other “edition/version/rewriting” of the bible, than their own chosen one.

The U.K. has a long tradition of supernatural happenings, as well as the home to both the Druids and Celts, both folks that have kinships with the supernatural.

All this means, as one looking from the outside, if y’all can’t agree on the source of all the holy writ necessary to be a Christian, than, of course, folks are going to look elsewhere, and to other things!


9 posted on 03/27/2014 8:13:05 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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"Who are the Britons?"


10 posted on 03/27/2014 9:02:23 AM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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Coming full circle.

Modernity, with classical predeterministic physics only allowed the physical material. To believe in anything else was anti-scientific and considered faith-based religious and to be shunned. As modernity fell, it opened up acceptance to again believe in something other than physical. Enter Post-modernity, with quantum physics, entanglement, non-locality. Is the wave function real or not, etc. etc.

Post modernity allows people to become spiritual again without having to feel shunned by the scientific community. But most will still not embrace the True One, but they have embraced Mother Gaia, occultism, etc. etc.


11 posted on 03/27/2014 9:40:27 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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...Advancing naturalism (the belief that nature is all there is) produces both expected and unexpected effects. The Harris poll found that belief in Darwin’s theory of evolution increased to 47 percent, up from 42 percent in 2005.

...As a result, some will crow that “Science is winning over superstition!” But it isn’t. Between 2005 and 2013, belief increased in

– ghosts from 41% to 42%

– UFOs from 35% to 36%

– astrology stayed the same at 29%

– witches decreased significantly from 31% to 26%

– reincarnation increased from 21% to 24%

While the noted increases are small, we should expect declines nearly across the board instead, if the “science wins” thesis were correct. (The one exception is UFOs; as a “sciencey” belief, they correlate with naturalism despite lack of evidence.) Further, we would expect young people (18–36) to reject ghosts and reincarnation more strongly than older people (68+) do.

And they don’t. On the contrary, younger folk believe in ghosts at 44% to seniors’ 24%. In UFOs at 36% to 30%. In astrology at 33% to 23%. In witches at 27% to 18%. And in reincarnation at 27% to 13%.

In short, naturalism offers liberation, not from the bonds of superstition but from the burden of rationality. And we must address the fact that increasing numbers of young people are embracing that liberation. More.


12 posted on 03/27/2014 9:47:21 AM PDT by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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What is “supernatural” other than an arbitrary ascription for that which one cannot access tangibly by way of senses and reason? The word is applied on a case-by-case basis by both individual and corporate humanity.


13 posted on 03/27/2014 9:47:36 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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