[servo1969]

Photo of the actual missing aircraft taken as it flew over Poland on February 5, 2014.

[don-o]

If he took it into the Bay of Bengal or somewhere in the Indian Ocean going about six, 700 knots vertical, just like Flight 93, the pieces of the airplane would be the size of your thumb.

I would love love to see evidence for THAT assertion.

[oh8eleven]

Well, the flight attendants can get in the cockpit. They have a way to access it. I won't give it out over the air.
Oh, great. Now we'll have every jihadist in the world trying to figure that out.

[Veto!]

Thanks for posting this conversation.

I’m going to accept the captain’s explanations and stop obsessing about what happened to MH370.

[Star Traveler]

It’s good to finally dispense with the phony idea of everyone dying at 45,000 feet ... LOL ...

[bigbob]

Someone correct me if I have this wrong, but from what I’ve heard, his statement about “The flight path climbed up precipitously to 45,000 feet, stalled, and then dove down to 25,000 feet ‘til it was recovered” is based on interpolation from primary radar returns only. If the transponder was still on and these altitudes were actually reported via Mode C transponder, then I withdraw any disagreement. But if the captain is basing his comments on data taken from primary radar returns only then it’s extremely flimsy evidence because primary surveillance radar (PSR) only provides distance and bearing information - not elevation.

The source of this data has been given as “China and the US” which, since we don’t have any airports over there, I take to mean China and the “US Military”, which also has more sophisticated radar systems that can provide more precise information (PAR) for ground controlled approaches (GCA). But these radars have a range of 10-20 miles and are used to allow ground controllers to guide approaching aircraft onto a carrier, and it’s implausible to think that one would happen to be looking 5 to 8 miles staight up at exactly the right time.

[Intolerant in NJ]

RUSH: Folks, this is classic of what I've been talking about. I mean, this is all over the media: you go to 45,000 feet and the passengers die. The only way you could do that is if you guys in the cockpit depressurize the cabin, right?...Exactly, Rush - that's what at least some of us holding to the 45000 foot theory say - not your straw man argument that they would be automatically killed, but that someone in the cockpit deliberately cut off their oxygen to subdue them, which would have been more effective at 45000 feet than at 35000 cruising altitude - Rush then went on to talk about there being "no evidence" that this happened, and ironically a bit later mentioned Sherlock Holmes in relation to trying to solve the mystery - too bad he didn't recall Sherlock's most famous case about the dog that didn't bark - in this case we have the passengers who didn't protest - the supposed flight path of the plane has it making an about face turn and then flying back over water and then land for about an hour - how is it possible in all this time not one passenger got on a cell or air to ground phone to try to communicate with someone about something - reception might have been impossible over the water, but surely not entirely absent while it was still over land for about an hour - I'm still with those who think this plane is down on land somewhere.....

[Aria]

We’re in the aviation business and my husband knows a United Airlines chief pilot who found himself next to a muslim co-pilot who was in the cockpit complaining about the US government. The chief pilot refused to leave his seat - not even to go to the bathroom.

What the hell is United doing hiring such people????

[logi_cal869]

I stated in another thread that ‘I’m done with this distraction’.

Lunch break: Couldn’t resist reading this and stopped at the following...

...burn through the pressure hull...

That thought escaped me. It debunks the fire in the nosewheel theory (depressurization). The climb to 45k is a preposterous reaction to that scenario.

I go back to my prior comment ‘done with this’...I’m just too busy to play guessing-game when we’re being restricted to the information they want to give us. I say declare the flight ‘lost’ (insofar as the surviving relatives go) and hopefully those with ‘access’ will figure it out in due time.

[faucetman]

“CALLER: I think you need to have an American citizen to be a command pilot of an American carrier. Right now they’re not. You don’t need to be an American citizen to be in command of an American carrier.”

Or to be president, either.

[353FMG]

>So what will people like you, pilots, what will officials, airlines now tell them going forward? You try to learn from every incident.<

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Be careful not to hire members of the ROP regardless of nationality. Hell, we have had American-born jihadists fighting US Forces in Afghanistan and we have American jihadists in Somalia right now.

An even more troubling scenario is to have muzzies flying or being in command of nuclear-armed US military weaponry.

[Gamecock]

This morning during my drive to work I thought about Occam's razor and applied it to this issue.

I am not a pilot but I as I thought through this whole thing I came to a pretty similar conclusion as the above pilot.

[anymouse]

Wonder if anyone has looked here ? Maybe the Sultan decided that he needed a new toy for his collection. If you needed to make a plane disappear, it helps to have a rich absolute monarchy where no one would question a plane showing up in the middle of the night with minimal navigation lighting and radio silence.

[ExCTCitizen]

I heard on coast to coast that the plane found a new Bermuda Triangle. I think it hit the Indian Ocean.

[Chaguito]

After noting the ridiculous information that has been feeding into the newsrooms, later contradicted or tossed in the trash, I tend to accept the simplest explanation of the data.

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

[jimjohn]

If it is any consolation: I recall an overseas trip (Delta Airlines Atlanta to London’s Gatwick Airport to ) in which the pilot announced he was going up to 41,000 ft to avoid bad weather ahead. That was a 747 back in 2000.

Obviously no problem else I wouldn’t be writing this.

[Las Vegas Dave]

Of possible interest to the ping lists as a FYI:

Retired 777 Pilot Calls the Show (Rush Limbaugh)

[RC one]

until we have definitive evidence that this plane crashed into the ocean or a mountain side, I’m operating under the assumption that it is intact and weaponized.

[Wildbill22]

Ok, in all due respect to the retired 777 captain, I have some problems with a lot of what he said.

-At 30,000 feet you have about 15 seconds of useful consciousness, much less if a smoker or out of shape, or ill or old.

-An average oxygen generator that fuels the passenger masks only will last about 10 to 12 minutes. 20 minutes above 25,000 is fantasy. That just won’t happen.

-Even with the O2 generator passenger oxygen, they would have little time of useful consciousness. They are there more to keep you alive in a rapid descent after a decompression at altitude.

The simple fact is that at those altitudes there is simply just not enough atmospheric pressure, even at 100 percent oxygen levels, to feed enough oxygen from your lungs to your bloodstream, to keep you from experiencing extreme hypoxia. That is why the pilots O2 is different from the passengers, and feeds O2 through a mask that is held firmly to seal the mouth and nose with positive pressure 100 percent oxygen. The loose mask with the bag is more to just keep people alive in the descent. And not for long.

[stlnative]

thks for the ping

[eldoradude]

May 28, 1987 Mathias Rust landed in Red Square in Moscow.

Air defense isn't as solid as people would have you believe...

The Captain was a relative of Malysia's jailed opposition leader - hmmm.

I think the caller's right - the jet is fish food.