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Three men arrested, equipment seized for deer poaching
BayNews9 ^ | Thursday, March 13, 2014 | Staff

Posted on 03/13/2014 10:34:07 AM PDT by rarestia

Three men are facing charges in Pasco County for poaching deer on private property and hunting out of season.

Officials with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission say they caught the men on February 27 on private land near Bellamy Brothers Boulevard in Dade City.

Officers said they noticed spotlights in operation and heard multiple gunshots coming from private property nearby. Around 1 a.m., officers said they found Jason Payne, Eric Ohmdahl and Marc Laird cleaning six deer on Payne's property.

Officers took three rifles with lights attached and six bags of deer meat.

All three men were charged with first-degree misdemeanors, including taking deer during closed season.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: poaching
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To: Manly Warrior

I intentionally used the term “King’s deer” as the history of out game laws can trace its roots to English Common law where the “state” was the King.


21 posted on 03/13/2014 11:26:00 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

About a trillion years ago my cousin’s husband made the papers by getting caught carrying out the last remaining buck in Pasco county. Out of season naturally. :-)


22 posted on 03/13/2014 11:30:26 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: rarestia

Missed that..........8^(


23 posted on 03/13/2014 11:30:55 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I dunno, the ones around here are pretty private. Whenever I approach one, they run away!...........


24 posted on 03/13/2014 11:31:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Red Badger

Just curious, does that change your response on this? Do you think this arrest is unjust as a result?

I see a lot of people saying that wildlife “belong to the state” while others think that’s an anachronistic, fascist viewpoint. Thoughts?


25 posted on 03/13/2014 11:35:38 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

My land. My fence. My animals...............


26 posted on 03/13/2014 11:36:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Red Badger

Thank you! I couldn’t agree with you more. As far as I’m concerned, the FWC officers trespassed and could’ve been shot.


27 posted on 03/13/2014 11:38:13 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

A trillion years ago? He must have went to school with Helen Thomas..............


28 posted on 03/13/2014 11:38:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: rarestia

If I were the judge, I’d throw out all charges................


29 posted on 03/13/2014 11:38:58 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Red Badger

If nothing else, they should try for jury nullification. If I was seated on that jury, I would vehemently disagree with the charges and not vote to acquit on the grounds that these men could’ve been hunting for their own subsistence.


30 posted on 03/13/2014 11:42:23 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

I believe deer are considered public property and can only be hunted with a license.
Cattle and horses are considered private property.

I believe the state game laws deal with this issue.


31 posted on 03/13/2014 11:44:12 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: rarestia

Whether needed subsistence or not, the land and everything on it belongs to the owner.........


32 posted on 03/13/2014 11:44:19 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Alas Babylon!

***farmers or property owners have the right to kill out of season any animal eating or ruining their crops.****

Most states require a special depredation license for this.

One bean field farmer created a scandal when he shot several hundred deer in one year out of season with one of these licenses.


33 posted on 03/13/2014 11:47:34 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Red Badger

Snicker :-)


34 posted on 03/13/2014 11:51:27 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: rarestia
Who would bother poaching deer?

It is much better roasted or stewed.

The chef is here. Good eats for everyone.

'La bonne cuisine est la base du véritable bonheur.' - Auguste Escoffier
(Good food is the foundation of genuine happiness.)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

35 posted on 03/13/2014 12:10:59 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: LouAvul
kill deer year round just for the antlers

Even in January and February?

36 posted on 03/13/2014 2:06:17 PM PDT by xone
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To: rarestia

I feel the same way to a degree. But the laws were originally passed to allow over hunted species to recover. Deer are no longer over hunted. Turkey are no longer over hunted. In some states rabbits are in short supply. In Alabama feral hogs are open season year round. As a hunter I do believe that wildlife management is a positive thing as we have a healthy population of deer, turkey, and rabbits. But I do believe that you can harvest deer and rabbits on your own property during daylight hours for sustenance. But these dudes were poachers in most any state due to the lights and the darkness. As a hunting convesationist who has had to stop these types on my land, I think they should be busted. There are also health and reproduction of the population reasons not to hunt in the spring. Trust me when I say without seasons, rules such as daylight, and game management, there are enough clowns like these 3 to damage the populations of many species to the point there would be now legal hunting for years.


37 posted on 03/13/2014 4:25:45 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: hoosierham

I will repeat a comment I just made with this question first. Do you live in an area that has a lot of new human development? If you do the herd may need a cull hunt or two per year. Now what I just said in another comment: “The laws were originally passed to allow over hunted species to recover. Deer are no longer over hunted. Turkey are no longer over hunted. In some states rabbits are in short supply. In Alabama feral hogs are open season year round. As a hunter I do believe that wildlife management is a positive thing as we have a healthy population of deer, turkey, and rabbits. But I do believe that you can harvest deer and rabbits on your own property during daylight hours for sustenance. But these dudes were poachers in most any state due to the lights and the darkness. As a hunting convesationist who has had to stop these types on my land, I think they should be busted. There are also health and reproduction of the population reasons not to hunt in the spring. Trust me when I say without seasons, rules such as daylight, and game management, there are enough clowns like these 3 to damage the populations of many species to the point there would be no legal hunting for years.”


38 posted on 03/13/2014 4:30:51 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: Red Badger

LOL. They are crafty little beggars. It is easier to kill one with your car than with a gun. Lucky for me I see them early enough to avoid them when I’m in my truck. I see them early enough to shoot them and put them in my freezer. Hunting at night is poaching. I do not support poaching.


39 posted on 03/13/2014 4:45:48 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I hit a deer on I-70 outside Kansas City, Kansas in September 1974 at night about 20 miles from nowhere. Demolished the whole front end of my car, as I was doing about 70 at the time.............The Highway Patrol officer put the deer in his trunk.......


40 posted on 03/14/2014 6:34:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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